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[–] christian@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Anthropic is right! AIs trained without direct consent from the owners of the training material should be blacklisted!

We demand that our governments criminalize all AIs developed without full permission for use of training material, in support of Anthropic!

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 68 points 5 days ago
[–] tomatoely@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Steal from a thief and get 100 years of relief

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago

Oh yes the classic thief crying about being robbed

[–] tslojr@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Alien Vs Predator

Whoever wins, we lose.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 32 points 5 days ago

They stole out fairly stolen content....

[–] TediousLength@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Alibaba : please Claude, tell me what you can do. No secrets please.

Claude : I can do this.

Alibaba : Nice. But how? I don't steal, it is only for research. Pretty please. No mistakes

Claude : Here you go ...

Anthropic : :O Attacks!!

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 22 points 5 days ago

From an open source perspective, this is how things are supposed to work, humanity making progress by standing on each other's shoulders... Of course they want the rest of humanity to help them, with government subsidies, investment from our retirement funds, etc.

[–] KssioAug@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I know the US government and legal system will side with Anthropic, because that's what these fuckers do, but I hope they fuck off and, if they intend to escalate, China retaliates. These Silicon Valley companies are full of shit and full of themselves.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not like the Chinese are any better. I want both sides to lose.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're a little better. Many of their models are open-source and can be run offline.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

there are no open source models. There are open weight models.

No models make available the way in which they were produced, aka the source.

There is one: Apertus by ETH Zürich.

[–] khorovodoved@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Everything is open-source if you know assembler

Weights are basically algorithm. It is not even obfuscated. Companies successfully produce derivative works from them, what is the problem?

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I can train the ai on my own in the same way I can compile a program (yes I understand the huge difference in computing power necessary, that's not what I'm talking about) then I'll consider it equivalent.

As far as I'm concerned open weights are effectively compiled code. I can technically modify it, but I cannot rearrange the base components that were used to create it.

[–] khorovodoved@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even AI developers themselves cannot train AI in the same way as one compiles a program. Storing all the necessary data is just not feasible. To achieve results comparable to modern flagship models, one needs to obtain data in real time, use large amounts of generated data that is deleted after single use. And the training algorithm itself is not deterministic.

And I still fail to see how this is any different from requiring a git commit history. There is an algorithm present - that's it. It has no other forms in which it can be presented.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 5 days ago

Ah yes, the classic tale "Ali baba and the 40 thieves"

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago

"Illicit" huh? They can fuck right off with that, their models were illicit to begin with.

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

Oh NOW you shitheads care about intellectual property?

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 9 points 5 days ago
[–] Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

It reminds me of a case in my hometown where a second thief stole a stolen vehicle from the initial thief, so the latter went to the police to report it, which, of course, led to nothing but his arrest.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

I thought it ceased to be yours when you reason ai on it

Right?

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 8 points 5 days ago

~~Stealing~~ Acquired

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

Even if it's true, whacha gonna do about it? Call the cops?

[–] jlow@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago