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[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 103 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Benn Jordan leveraged his expertise in audio engineering to investigate this phenomenon. Do watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bP80DEAbuo

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Benn Jordan is a gem, do yourself a favor and just go watch all his stuff.

His latest on robot dogs is amazingly well-executed and researched with terrifying conclusions.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Listen to his music, too! It’s amazing! I’ve seen him a few times and one time the equipment at the festival didn’t work so he just improvised his whole set. He was insanely good at it. So much vocoder, it was delightful!

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Benn Jordan is like an anarchist Mr. Rogers.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We need an anarchist Mr. Rogers. Just someone pure of heart to talk to kids about taking care of their neighbors no matter what the government says. Little everyday lessons in consensus and how to deal with the conflicts that arise when different people have different big feelings. How everyone is special just for being themselves and we should encourage our neighbors to be their unique selves.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Totally agree.

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[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

so, a huge improvement. :)

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

this is a great video

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The US has a serious problem with who is able to sue for what damages when it comes to pollution. Depending on if it's noise, water, or air, the legal codes are not effective at protecting property or people.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

Depending on if it's noise, water, or air, the legal codes are not effective at protecting property or people.

Boy, it's almost like those are meant to protect something and someone else... Hm... 🤔

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Publicize the costs, privatize the profits!

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just tax the fucking things already. Fuck tax breaks and kick out any administrators who take the bribes and go against the wishes of their constituents.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Woah woah woah, let's not get hasty. I say we dismember the administrators for taking bribes. Why just kick them out?

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Because violence tends to either escalate or peter out. Either you run out of people that support you or you eventually force the government to throw all its might at suppressing you. Unless you are very well-prepared, organised and have sufficient and resilient support, it might fail and not achieve much other than provide further pretext for crackdown.

Historically, non-violent resistance has a good track record, if (and only if) it is targeted well and applied with resilience and persistence. It has a potential to galvanise the participants, stir people into action (which helps with recruiting more) and cast the injustice of a violent system into relief.

Mind, non-violently doesn't mean writing stern letters or standing on the wayside looking pissed. It absolutely includes disrupting, getting in the way, being a nuisance, being impossible to ignore. The Nashville sit-ins, for example, obstructed the business of lunch counters that refused to serve black people by taking up spots reserved for the people that the establishment would actually like to do business with. In our example, people might occupy the offices of the corrupt administrators, asking to talk to them and making them listen to their constituents in the most literal way, refusing to leave until they get results.

It most certainly will be considered some form of unlawful conduct and will possibly be met with force. The police will be called and start making arrests. But a well-organised and patient campaign to coerce the corrupt officials into rescinding their decisions or resigning (at which point their successors will be subjected to the same demand) doesn't need to hurt people.

It just needs to erode their will until complying with the demands looks like the most bearable option.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why wouldn’t you do that to the board of directors of the companies bribing the officials? When removing weeds you need to pull out the roots.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

When did they say not to?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have a number of big fans run at almost the same frequency, and you get an onslaught of waves at the differences of those frequencies.

As they are all nearly the same speed/frequency, the differences will be infrasound, which causes a lot of odd effects on people, like anxiety.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

So basically the data centers could alleviate their sound problems by having all their fans run at opposite frequencies to cancel our the sound through deconstructive interference

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

Or better, shutting down entirely.

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

And do something that's good for people at virtually no expense? Haha, no.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or soundproof the building.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't it really difficult to soundproof against the low frequency noises?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just use corrugated cardboard and with longer sine waves, duh!

I am not an audio engineer but you might have a point in that the longer low sound waves would be harder to block.

Where my audiophiles at? We need a sound check on low frequency blocking.

Edit:
Found an article on a crypto mining facility mitigating noise issues.

https://noisemonitoringservices.com/data-center-noise-control/

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah, but do you know what's super useful? Molotov cocktails.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure how effective that would be unless you were able to get inside the building and could strategically deliver them.

What you really need is a drone that can drop thermite, then lower a small EMP device into the hole.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

drones/balloons with long metal wire dangling down.

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[–] Aufgehtsabgehts@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The same argument is used by opponents of wind energy - Infrasound is having bad effects on their health. People do say that while living next to roads that are producing infrasound multiple times louder than wind turbines ever could.

It's a nice argument if you need it.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

There's documented proof of this being measured by multiple people.

A windmill is literally only a visual blight.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we’ve had data centres for 40 years how did this only recently come up in America?

Ngl didn’t read the article

[–] SUDO@reddthat.com 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ooh a question I can answer. I will make the answer as neutral as I can just explaining the differences of old Data Centers and new ones.

I worked in several data centers (DC). But all were air cooled. These AI DCs are also called Hyper scales. They need liquid due to the density of heat production. In addition some literally use jet engines to power them instead of grid power. Some new DCs use loopholes like adding wheels to their power production so that way they can skirt around laws saying it's only temporary power production.

In the past a rack (42u standard) would hold things like hard drives, tape libraries, network stuff, and servers. Now they cram in GPUs by the dozens, run them at max via liquid cooling. Traditional DC cooling used air cooled hot and cold isles, raised floors with air conditioning pump and large scale chiller units.

Hyper scales are whole different animals. They are ment for processing. Depending on their loop system they need water connected right to GPU/CPUs, heat distribution, fresh water. All relatively new due to water's thermal mass.

Traditional DCs were air cooled. For perspective a fortune 500's DC may have been 3k sq ft. A Colo (multiple companies sharing one building for infrastructure) may be 15000-50000sq ft. These new data centers are now campuses. Like they are 8 data center buildings on one site because it's more practical to drive at some point.

TL;DR a Data Center =/= hyperscale data center.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So they build them cheaply and doing everything in their power to avoid regulations. We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

A government worried about the environment... That usually only happens in times of mass outrage, chances of which might decrease over time by modern ~~propaganda~~ communication strategies.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. People don't understand why I'm not anti-datacenter (let me finish before you dog-pile me). Datacenters are very efficient ways to house lots of compute. Power, HVAC, and staffing all benefit from economies of scale. Most of our modern life is highly depent on datacenters, including application specific AI tools (not LLMs, but like medical imaging analysis tools) that will have positive effects on humanity. I do have problems with datacenters that are going up quickly and cheaply, with lax standards for air, water, sound and light pollution, and power subsidized by the surrounding homes, in order to ride the front of this very unstable AI bubble.

Before you ask, I did sign the petition to limit datacenters in my state. I'd sign one to limit new datacenter construction nation-wide. Datacenters are essential to modern life, which is exactly why we should have a higher standard for how they are constructed. I'm not anti-data center, but I am anti-whatever-the-fuck-this-is.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment

But the government is helping pave the way for it.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

This would be hell for me.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm surprised the 49ers haven't already built a data center right next to their stadium.

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