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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

The Conservative party's identity is easy: "Fossil fuels are the number one priority and we'll die on that hill."

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

The problem is the center-right PC party died with Mulroney. PC after that was just a brand taken by the Reform and other Alberta asshole parties.

NDP lost touch with the workers and care more about how many letters they can add to LGBTQ+... which leaves the Liberals center right, not much different than Harper's government. Right now, the PCs are just Northern Republicans.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would really like to see the conservatives split into 2 parties again! Then I would like to see voter election reform.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But you see they understand that consolidating under one party under first-past-the-post wins them more elections.

The elites would rather not have their members split into Libertarian, United, Centrist, Future, CHP and PPC factions.

They don’t want conservatives to have real choice under proportional representation and save taxes preventing cancelled projects when the government changes. It’s either stinking Pierre Poilievre or the highway.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With any luck once Trump is out of office some of the Liberals will see that Carney is a conservative in a liberal suit and cross to the NDP, or more likely fracture and start a new party. Once the liberals do not have a majority any more I see the conservatives who do not like PP will see Carney for what he is and jump ship. I really hope to see some change in our government, especially with how close we are getting to the EU.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It would be nice to see liberals with a conscience split from Carney’s liberal party.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

reform

I see what you did there.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

reform

I see what you did there

Not like that.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I am feeling real smooth brained right now, as I do not see what I did there?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you're old enough, the original right-wing splinter party was the Reform Party (1987-2000).

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Fair I thought about that after I posted, I do not like giving Harper much credit for things but he did bring the PC’s back together.

I was born in 87 and did not really care or understand much about politics until the early 2000’s. So it is a little out of my mind, but I did know about as I have read about the different political parties Canada has had.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What are the distinct policies Conservatives are fighting for that clearly distinguish them from Carney’s Liberals?

Again, in his keynote speech, Poilievre argued that Conservatives “have won these debates so thoroughly that Liberals have stopped debating us altogether and started plagiarizing.” Former Conservative leader Erin O’Toole recently struck a similar note, writing to Carney on his Substack: “keep it up on all of these issues.”

Carney’s current agenda on the environment, immigration, government spending, foreign policy, defence, and technology is already being pursued in a manner similar to, if not directly aligned with, longstanding Conservative priorities. Carney is moving forward with new pipelines, aggressive deregulation, disregarding Indigenous sovereignty, cutting immigration and ramping up deportations, gutting the federal public service, inflating our defence (war-making) capabilities, getting tougher on crime, selling off public assets, undermining labour unions, doing away with pharmacare, and doubling down on AI technologies and data centres.

While some key differences regarding social policies, cultural politics, and geostrategic relations with China and the United States remain, in broad policy strokes, they are fairly analogous to many existing Conservative policy platforms

https://www.readtheorchard.org/p/icymi-june-15-21

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Poilievre argued that Conservatives “have won these debates so thoroughly that Liberals have stopped debating us altogether and started plagiarizing.

They won so hard they started splitting their winnings with the NDP.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope we make Carney a one-term pm.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Yes but not to be replaced with PP

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Tiny PP bring it home 🤡💩