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Gabe Newell, founder of Bellevue’s Valve, buys $70.8M Florida mansion (www.seattletimes.com)

submitted 11 hours ago by woelkchen@lemmy.world to c/steamos@lemmy.world

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This is why Steam Machine is over 1000 USD/Euro.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I disagree. It is not why the steam machine has an inflated price.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's AI, babe.

[+] woelkchen@lemmy.world -8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

It’s AI, babe.

AI is not the reason Gabe doesn't want to subsidize hardware as others do with their consoles. Buying mansions and yachts is.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Why would we want a subsidized Steam Machine?

Subsidization pretty much requires that the hardware be locked down and walled-gardened so the subsidy they put into it eventually pays off. The Steam Machine, currently, lets you install whatever OS you want and use it like a regular PC without locking you into the Steam ecosystem at all.

"Okay, so they should make a locked-down subsidized one and an unlocked full price one" someone might ask. That's extra development and support work they have to put into it, and it would only be a matter of time before someone jailbreaks the subsidized one to work like the unlocked one.

Plus, you can make any capable PC a "Steam Machine" since they also give away Steam OS. My DIY Steam Machine runs Bazzite, but I was close to putting SteamOS on it. The only thing that made me choose Bazzite was that pretty much all of the patches and special module to support this former AMD crypto-mining card were already baked into Bazzite.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Subsidization pretty much requires that the hardware be locked down and walled-gardened so the subsidy they put into it eventually pays off. The Steam Machine, currently, lets you install whatever OS you want and use it like a regular PC without locking you into the Steam ecosystem at all.

For this to be true, you'd need to have some data that a significant portion of Steam Deck (to name the hardware that's out for years) users wipe SteamOS and not use it for Steam.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have that information, but I almost bought a Deck to use in such a manner. Figured it would be easier to carry around than my laptop since I pretty much just move from a docking station in my office to the docking station in my den (my org is BYOD since pretty much everything is through Citrix). Ultimately decided to just buy a smaller laptop (yay X1 Carbon).

Honestly, it just sounds like you're mad at GabeN for having money.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago

I don’t have that information

Then don't make such a claim.

Honestly, it just sounds like you’re mad at GabeN for having money.

No, I'm not. Just pointing out that others are subsidizing hardware cost and that the money to do so would be there but it was decided to sell a "Beginner's Gaming PC... At an Enthusiast Price" as Giant Bomb described the SM in their review.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The price is a shitty situation, though I wonder if it prevents equally shitty companies buying them all up for cheap, generic compute, like we saw with the pi5 during the pandemic.

That doesn't excuse the mansion and excessive yacht buying, of course.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago

I don't mind if you want to throw Gabe in with the AI trash bubble

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Have did that because he built several industry leading video games, then built the largest online video game store front, and a hardware company the size most companies have for web dev.

The video game industry is larger than Hollywood and the music industry combined. Steam generated over 17 billion USD in revenue over 2025, with a team of around 350 full time employees.