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Tested: Microsoft just debloated Windows 11 Search without Bing, and it's crazy fast (www.windowslatest.com)
submitted 10 hours ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Not surprising. Web search from the Start Menu was always a bad idea.

Hell, I've had to deal with users getting their systems compromised because of this idiocy. User typed 'ms teams' in the start menu, clicked on the first link and ended up at an attacker's page which mimicked the official Teams download page. User clicked "Download", received the trojaned .msi file and ran it.

Sure, there's some blame to go around in that case (and we finally got some default configuration changes out of it), but the fact that Microslop's greed led to a malvertising link showing up in a user's Start Menu is indicative of everything wrong with Windows 11.

[–] mrsilkworm@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago

too little, too late

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 hours ago

is it ripgrep level of "crazy fast" tho?

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

One of the biggest Windows habits I've had to break is using file explorer to open documents and files. This was because memorizing file paths is way faster than using search. Search in Windows has never been good, because it's always been weighted toward what Microslop wants you to find. And the index goes to shit if a user does something unexpected like saving, moving, or deleting files.

Linux search just works. If I know the file name, there is no reason to open a file explorer at all. Just mash the power key and start typing.

[–] morto@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Instructions unclear. Now my pc is turned off.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I use 'everything' by void tools for most file searching. It doesn't index content but I find files way faster and more reliabily than Windows search.

[–] TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 40 minutes ago

Everything for windows is hands down the most useful tool

I convinced our IT guy to index the company and host a server so now I can tell people where they stored shit even. In fact, it allows me to profile entire project lifespans and their respective evolution through our company.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 68 points 10 hours ago (14 children)

Only bad management is keeping everything from being crazy fast. No reason for today's programs to be slower than what we had a decade ago.

[–] morto@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I remember when finishing my dissertation and thinking about how my sister did her one several years before me, in a computer that was considered unusable by the time I did mine, and both the work process and the finished result were pretty much the same. I had a computer that was astronomically better than she had, yet, everything was slow, just like she felt when she did her.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The CPU in an average consumer PC can do tens of billions of instructions per second now. 10,000,000,000+ instructions per second. And then it can also offload some work to other devices. Here, graphics card, deal with updating this display at 144Hz. Hey network card, take this buffer and squirt it out the ethernet port at a 1 gigabit line speed for me.

And even with all that help, it still takes for-fucking-ever to get shit done. What the fuck are all those instructions doing‽

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 36 minutes ago

Mine are all used up to block ads and trackers and page elements, then when they're done, I'm being throttled punitively by the service because i didn't watch their ads :(

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There's also a whole lot of abstraction layers in software these days. All kinds of frameworks, no code platforms, scripts and engines ask introduce their own delays when running software, all added to make time to market a bit shorter or just because of some tech fetish.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Windows OS updates and releases aren’t subject to this as it’s closed source

Whether human or machine, external factors are all internally decided

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you assume this can't be an issue in a closed source?

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Describe the abstraction layers of a closed source project in the context of Microsoft

You can’t, unless you work for Microsoft

There’s market forces, which is not what you described; rather tooling and nuance specific to software development

When Microsoft controls the input and outputs, it’s a closed loop affected by Microsoft governance, not random tools, systems or transparent inputs

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 54 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Cool, now do that five years ago

[–] marud@piefed.marud.fr 25 points 10 hours ago

Cool, now bring back windows 7

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 24 points 9 hours ago

Microslop can still fuck off, too little too late.

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

If they want to push Bing so hard I wonder why didn't they just show you the local results first and then asynchronously load Bing suggestions in a separate section. It would make good UX while still promoting their search engine.

Good that it can be disabled though

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

show you the local results first and then asynchronously load Bing suggestions in a separate section

Actually, that's fn brilliant.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not brilliant, it's something a software engineer should have mentioned in the first 5 minutes of the initial design meeting. It very likely was.

So what you need to understand is that mashing Bing and local results together was a deliberate design decision. Whether to artificially inflate Bing search numbers , or to get that sweet cash from sponsored results, who knows?

[–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

How do you expect them to maximise their profits if people find what they are looking for immediately?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 11 points 10 hours ago

Maybe the boss wanted the AI results to come first?

;-)

[–] OhmeHose@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago

Because then you get no advertising moneyzzzz

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, is it fast?.. I doubt it. Still background services sucking up all the ram.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

background services sucking up all the ram.

I love how the (mandated) Teams running on the (mandated) win11 work laptop is gobbling A GIGABYTE AND A HALF OF RAM all by itself. What the actual flapping fuck is that?

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[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I do this (or get it done by IT) on every Windows machine that I have to use. There has long been a registry tweak to kill the online search and it really does improve the experience.

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

"We've listened to customer feedback and started putting REAL tomatoes into our Shitburger again. People will come flocking back in DROVES!"

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

That's like them deliberately closing a strait (for profit), and then reopening it to much glory to their very achievement.

And they didn't even debloat telemetry, they just turned off the ads.

Also what local search these days isn't close to instant (which I would say it's faster than "crazy fast")?

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