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Sea Of Stars Developers To Release Patch That Removes The Completionist (noisypixel.net)

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[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So... Who is "The Completionist" and why are they getting removed?

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

YouTuber who ran a charity for something like 10 years, recently it came out that he kept all the money that was donated. What was supposed to happen is that he takes the donations, then donates that to another charity. When called out, his excuse was that he "forgot to donate the money."

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

He later did donate the money, but only after being publicly called out, and his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to, not that he forgot.

He's still a scumbag, but don't oversell it, the truth is bad enough.

[–] Fyurion@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

He starts by saying he didnt know and "that's not cool" but than changes his story and now it was totaly the plan all along. But on top of this, for years he would say all money they receive would be donated including things like twitch subscriptions and all that but now he says they used that money for their own costs. But wait there's more! His familly also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity but that money is nowhere to be found.

And to top it all off, he keeps bringing up his dead mother to try to get sympathy. The Completionist is a COMPLETE scumbag and a consistent liar, you cant trust a word he says. Oh and he is threatening to sue the people that brought his clear fraud to light.

I think that covers it

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[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He’s still a scumbag, but don’t oversell it, the truth is bad enough.

One, running a charity and saying that you're donating money and then not donating that money is still charity fraud, especially when you advertise that you've "donated the money" in past events.

Two, they run another golf event that has donations that are easily tracked (by the number of donation members and tier groups for those donations), but the money from those events do not add up to the money they have on their non-profit statements. They have also conveniently left out their donation amounts for that golf event in an (very poor) attempt to hide the money that they have been stealing from that event.

He's a scumbag, and a criminal, and a thief. And he and his brother deserves to serve prison time. And they did this in the dumbest way possible, to the point that a YouTuber could follow the path and find the fraud. This sort of case is a federal prosecutor's wet dream.

There is no such thing as "overselling" this.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to

Yeah, so bonkers. Naming a specific charity for 10 years and then to claim that all that time was spent to find the right charity is such an obviously dumb lie. Before the golf tournament thing came out, he could just have claimed "Oops, I could have sworn I made a recurring donation and I just didn't look at the numbers all that time. Seems I made an error, my bad, sorry." and nobody could have disproven it having been a dumb human error.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He mentioned he knew the number hadn't been donated as of 2021, so it's entirely possible he wasn't directly involved in the charity other than running donation drives. Yes he was an officer that whole time, but it's very reasonable to say that a sibling was doing most of the charity work.

This doesn't absolve him of responsibility (he's an officer, so he should be aware), and he still didn't donate it for two years. But it's entirely possible he didn't know it hadn't been donated for 7-8 years, and after that point he just followed the same script he'd been using. Again, it doesn't absolve him, but it does provide some important context.

Then again, this assumes what he said was true. I don't have any reason to doubt it though, because he basically admitted to multiple allegations in the same call.

[–] Gljvf@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well Mayne he didn't donate all the money because there are things lite donations, merch , bits and the golf tournament that weren't factored in by some ordinary gamer. So some money may still be gone

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Left out the part and at the end he plays victim and made a claim that he was going to sue the people that called him out for not donating.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's worse than that.

They were using the charity as a way to hide money that they were actually stealing from another golf charity event. The math doesn't add up, and this is going to end with the IRS throwing these assholes in prison. Trey Parker already put out in a comment (on that same video above) that he's suing their organization, and this is going to attract a lot of federal govt attention. The IRS does not fuck around when it comes to charity fraud.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Wait... The Trey Parker? As in the South Park producer?

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God, that article was shit. Thanks for asking, so I didn't need to.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The complete saga as of three days ago:

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[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Outlines alleged charity fraud and embezzlement on the scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars

It'S juSt YoUtUbe dRaMa

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The core of it isn’t YouTube drama as the dude is actually committing a crime I believe, but a lot of the comments surrounding it is 1000% YouTube drama - same with the SSSniperwolf and JacksFilms stuff with one YouTuber stalking and doxxing the other on their Instagram and getting away basically scot-free because YouTube prefers one over the other and the fans of the perpetrator said they were 100% justified in stalking and revealing the other YouTuber’s home address.

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (8 children)

That is not "YouTube drama"

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[–] Merwyn@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Never ever ever ever give money to someone that promise to give it after to charity. There are countless stories with proof of people who never kept the promises. Even if they did give it, they get tax benefit instead of you. It's worth also (even more) for shop or other places that propose to round up the total and give to charity.

You want to give to charity? Just give to charity, why a middle man ?

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Even if they did give it, they get tax benefit instead of you.

No, they don't.

They literally just don't have to count the amount you gave them as income. That's it. That's the whole thing. You can't profit off of middle manning donations unless you commit fraud.

[–] code@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Also if your on the charity board etc you can use the funds for “marketing” or “admin fees”. Its a quite common scam that crappy charities only donate like 5% of donations

[–] basic_spud@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, you're kind of correct. However, you CAN make profit by acting as an 'organizer' for the charity event, where the charity pays you the money as a service, but directly gets the donations. See: Games Done Quick, which is a for-profit LLC that the various charities they 'support' pay them to put on the event. Of course, this number naturally is likely to end up being a % of the last event's donations.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I don't see what that has to do with the premise, which is the somehow donating to charity gives you a net profit because taxes. The real issue here is that people don't seem to understand taxes (understandable, it's complex).

Here's how it works WRT to taxes:

you normally make $X
you receive $Y in charitable donations, and donate that $Y to charity
your taxable income is: $X + $Y - $Y = $X

Middle-manning charitable gifts is net zero tax-wise. The only potential for profit has nothing to do with tax write offs:

pay people involved a salary for operating the charity - only works if you own the nonprofit, and then there are issues if you have people getting paid by both wings (lots of tax scrutiny there)
charity event increases sales of your for-profit venture - e.g. more people watch your other videos or buy your merch - this is why YouTubers do it, but this still has nothing to do with taxes
charge the nonprofit for a spot on a for-profit stage - again, not sure if that's legal, but they'd have to pay taxes on that income

In short, donating to charity doesn't somehow make you better off in terms of taxes, at best it helps you with your branding.

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's usually people who weren't thinking of giving to a charity until the charity host did it. And it's usually also done for in return for entertainment.

So while there's definitely an overarching goal to get something to a charity, it's usually about grabbing people who would normally not think about doing it.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because A) you have to research the charities as a lot of them give very little (or sometimes don’t, in this case) to the actual cause they are championing, and 2) sometimes people are more likely to donate to a face they know rather than an organization.

iirc Crit1kal used to donate practically all of his YouTube earnings to charity waaaaaay back in the day with pics of the monies being given. No idea if he does it now still, but I’m confident he would show the receipts if it was in question.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I'd rather just donate to the charity in question. Why funnel it through a middle man when I could just donate it straight to the source?

If they're selling other merch and profits go to a charity, I evaluate it as a sale, not as a charity, and only buy if I want the item for that price.

People like to make the argument about the money going to admin costs instead of productive work, but I think that's silly because that admin costs will need to be paid by someone. If I trust a charity to allocate bulk funds properly, I should also trust them to allocate other funds properly as well. Money is fungible, so all that earmarking does is make their accounting work harder.

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Not to mention he's defending his actions and is now threatening to sue those accusing. Probably just gonna keep exploding till idk. Something major happens.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

It's gotten far more complicated that that, but we can keep it with "Suspect of running a (or multiple) charity scams, eventually paying a token amount that is only in line with reported revenue, not with revenue that can easily be checked from the vods of the charity streams.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Charity fraud is a bit more than “YouTube drama” but ok dude, just keep “lemmysplaining” 🙄

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am 100% convinced that article was written by ai with just enough info to keep people reading between the ads.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

This is an insane website. You’re not joking.

[–] dallo@lemmy.kiois.net 16 points 2 years ago

I now want a NPC named Karl the investigative journalist

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

I 100%'d this game, including post game content, and never even knew this character was based on a real person. That's wild.

That being said, if you enjoy turn-based RPGs with action command elements (Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi, etc.) please play this game. It's incredible.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Dayum

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