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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

President Donald Trump warned Saturday that the United States could impose tolls on the vital Strait of Hormuz waterway if negotiators are unable to complete a deal to end the war in Iran.

Lol wut. So ships are going to get double tolled?

Don't threaten me with a good time, Mr. President. You might be doing more good to progress the world away from oil than any President since we learned about the climate catastrophe, ironically

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Trump is a librul PLANT who is working to push the world to woke GREEN ENERGY and destroy the beautiful family friendly fossil fuel industry!

/S, because someone might take this seriously.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Pete is a stain on America. Renames himself to Secretary of War, loses his first war. What a moron. Can't wait for the day justice finds him.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Why are you so obsessed with Israel? It's not like it matters in your daily life. American voters don't care about Gaza."

-You know who

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 6 days ago

They're playing 4D chess.

They knew that this would happen, and they knew it would make Trump pissed at Israel and lead to the US funding of Israel to dry up.

[–] dizzle18@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean this with every fiber of my being: fuck Israel. Sadistic fucks are going to burn the whole world down.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

FUCK REPUBLICANS THEY ARE ENABLING ALL OF THIS!!

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean, it’s not a bad play to stop Israel’s genociding. To be clear, Iran’s regime is evil, they treat their people, especially women, terribly. Meanwhile, Israel has gone off the rails and there doesn’t seem to be a single western power willing to sit them down and have an intervention to get them off this bender of blood and ruin.

So, Iran, of all people, is going to force the point by closing the straight until they do.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Israel won't stop.

But this might cause Trump to stop sending them weapons, which will give their victims a better chance at winning.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump is more likely to start dropping nukes on Iran than to reign in Israel.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Have you been paying attention to the shut he's been saying about Netanyaho recently?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

He changed his mind again. He threatened to kill the Iranian diplomats today. Iran says they're not negotiating anymore and I don't blame them.

Honestly it doesn't matter what Trump says because he will forget it in less than day. His dementia is advancing quickly.

[–] godlessworm@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i'm speaking as an iranian american, respectfully, you need to come to terms with that and accept that you don't actually know anything about iran, or really, a lot of the countries you probably think are "evil". your entire life has been a brainwashing and lying campaign by your government and the corporations that control it. they want you to think the iranian government is evil so they can manufacture consent. it's literally that simple, and you repeating their point of view, or prefacing your "maybe we shouldn't indiscriminately kill civilians" opinion with their talking points only goes to serve their goals.

and before anybody's brainwashing kicks in;

you not agreeing with the iranian way of life doesn't make the government evil, and whether you want to accept it or not, most iranians do support their government. no, the iranian people are not brainwashed or stupid, you just have been misinformed about life in iran and how the government functions. example; my father was caught on a bus with alcohol. he was "sentenced" to 15 lashes. in reality he sat in a holding cell for 2 days then went home. whether or not you agree with the prohibition of alcohol is irrelevant

another example, and i'll preface this by saying i'm not trying to paint life in iran as easy, but in iran, the government actually does things to try and make life for its citizens livable despite the conditions america has created for the country. the government tries to make sure housing is affordable, provides healthcare and full education. women are on average MORE educated than men and leagues more educated than both men and women in any western country so i think it's funny americans have this idea that iranian women are so oppressed, but that's besides the point; for how "evil" the "iranian regime" is can you say that the AMERICAN government does anything like that to make life for ITS citizens better? more livable? does the US government do ANYTHING AT ALL for its citizens? anything you can point to is a handout to corporations. even the supposed "welfare state" in the US is just a handout to corporations. when a walmart worker gets food stamps, the walmart worker isn't the one benefitting in that situation, it's walmart who is saving money on labor over millions of employees american taxes pay for

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m not defending maga, or some of the shit that’s gone down prior in our long and sometimes sordid history. Everyone has better healthcare, undisputed. But most of my commentary here and in RL comes from this. I believe, in any place, relationship, government where women do not have the legal equality and freedom of men, I see it as evil. I include my own government and country in that estimation. Secular or religious, that context matters not at all, to me. That’s not fed by propaganda. If a woman chooses a certain life, cool. If it’s thrust upon her by circumstance, that’s different.

I am curious. How much of the story of Melina Asadi’s death and such was real and how much was propaganda? I followed those stories.

[–] godlessworm@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the issue here is that your western brainwashing makes you completely unable to contend with two facts; 1. that women in iran are equal to men, and that equality looks different from one culture to another, and 2. you're basing your opinions off of propaganda and brainwashing while being so propagandized that you believe you're coming from some place of objective observation. you are the type of person who is almost not worth talking to, frankly. even your question at the end, genuinely ask yourself, how true do you really think the narrative behind this thing that happened in a country thousands of miles away that was plastered all over your tv as an excuse to invade and bomb people is? your tv will show you a video of a black man getting choked to death by a cop and say "maybe it was a drug overdose we don't know". you think they're telling you the truth about anything else in any other country? you must be smarter than that.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I'm sorry but any country that has public executions can get fucked.

[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

Israel has been fighting on multiple different fronts against groups that wouldn’t exist (or wouldn’t be much of a threat) if not for Iran flooding them with cash and weapons to cause trouble — and it’s now been going on for nearly three generations.

I’m not a fan of Israel’s tactics, and I don’t forgive or forget the fact that they got so tired of the shit Iran has been pulling with arming roughly a dozen different anti-Israeli groups including Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Ansar Allah, Kata’ib Hezbollah, Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, Badr Organization, and various Syrian militias. All of these groups are anti-Israel, and likely wouldn’t exist (or would only exist as minor irritants with little power) if not for being funded and supported (and armed) by Iran.

If Brazil were pumping massive amounts of money and weapons into the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys and the 3 Percenters and you had constant attacks going on from them on American soil on a daily basis, I think Americans would be pretty pissed off, and after 50 years of dealing with that kind of shit would likely turn to some pretty extremist politicians too (hell, they haven’t had to put up with that kind of crap and installed such an administration anyway!)

I don’t agree AT ALL with the way Israel is treating the Palestinians — but I can see how they politically got to where they are today.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Iran only exists in this form because of the US and Israel. They were a flourishing culture until interfered with.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

it’s not a bad play to stop Israel’s genociding

They're only trying to get Israel to do less genociding. Stopping the genocide in Gaza isn't on the table.

No way, who could have seen this coming, I am honestly and sincerely surprised by this unanticipated development.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

In a broadcast aried on Iranian state TV (translated)

In light of the United States' clear breach of its commitments regarding the first article of the memorandum of understanding on ending the war, and in response to the continuous and relentless violations of the ceasefire by the Zionist regime in southern Lebanon, which have resulted in the brutal killing and displacement of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in that territory, as well as considering the failure of the occupying Zionist forces to withdraw from southern Lebanon, it is announced that the Strait of Hormuz will be closed to vessel traffic,” Iran’s Khatam al-Anbia Central Headquarters said in a statement on Saturday.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that Donvict or Hegseth have any fucking idea just what they stepped in.

Seeing these two and other flunkies and apparatchiks trying to spin this shitshow is just wild.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

They're making ludicrous money manipulating the market.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Are we tired of all the winning yet?

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol if they can make the US abandon Israel I would laugh so fucking hard hahahahaha!

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shumer will finally get to bite his cyanide capsule and detonate his suicide vest in congress.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Same with ~~Holden Bloodfeast~~ Lindsey Graham

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

One of these days Israel is going to bump into a country that is not going to tolerate there actions.

Or here actions, maybe even anywhere actions.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Aw shit, here we go again

[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Strong Man look weak. Look scared. Strong Man pay big money for end fight. Fight not over. Strong Man not know what do, want go home, forget fight. Strong Man tribe not forget.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both sides signed that agreement. Netanyahu, the puppet master, was not party to the agreement and provides a great big F.U.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

But Trump can cut off funding to Israel, and their whole economy will collapse.

They're both stubborn, and Iran knows this 🍿

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

-$400B

And the war persists.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

There was no way to foresee this ....

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No shit? The president's peace deal didn't hold? I am shocked! /s

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago

Why would he want peace? It's much more profitable to be at war ..

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