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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How else was he going to distract from raping children?

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

By raping men, duh!

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Spend a trillion bombing to destroy 300 billion worth of stuff, which you end up paying back anyways - the art of the deal.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

My understanding is that the 300 billion to Iran came from private funding and not taxpayers.

Makes you wonder who's pulling the strings now, doesn't it?

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That private funding will be called "Totally Not Taxpayer Money Co."

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If you have enough money to have anything you want, why not chose to be open about your evil. You will still win anyway and theres nothing you cant have. Go ahead and add an "lol" to the end of the company name or put "pedophile" in there someplace. It'll be more expensive but who cares, at a certain point of wealth.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Or name a completely invented government agency designed to gut social programs for Americans and increase wealth and remove any lawsuits for a certain trillionaire and name it after a fucking meme

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Yah, and Mexico paid for the wall too, right?

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

He bent over before as it wasn't America's war

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The elites miscalculated. Thiel, Musk and the others that Trump's leash thought that it would be a quick victory. But the Iranian people turned out to be stronger than they anticipated.

No miscalculation. The military industrial complex loves war. It doesn't matter who wins so long as their products are used.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Almost like America has been through this song and dance before.

I can't quite put an Afghanistan finger on it though.... Or an Iraqi... Or a Vietnamese.... Or a...

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The Iranian people were getting gunned down in the streets by the Iranian government just a few months before Trump attacked.

It’s the Iranian government and military that managed to hold on. Trumps attack only made them stronger.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"$300 billion dollars is less than $1000 per citizen. It's not an amount that would help anyone."

  • out of touch "economists"
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, I don't want $1000 coming out of my pocket for Trumps bullshit. I'd be fine with it going to people in need.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

They dont count the backdoor costs of literally everything you buy in America going up 50% in price because of the war. And it wont go back down again when it ends. Same as always.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

From the shit perspective of an economist that doesn't need $1,000 to catch up on bills.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

Not to mention a family of 4, which would amount to $4000, which might be a 10% increase in income, not including the 30% that's already been taxed out of that $300b.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't forget the part where Trump backed out of the horrible deal Obama made with Iran that involved 1.6 billion dollars going to Iran.

Now it's 300 billion, extra taxes on fuel that benefit the Iranian regime, thousands of people murdered, and America's international standing even further eroded.

Art of the Deal!

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Plus the purely immediate financial cost of the war itself which I've seen estimated at around 25 billion.

And I don't know how to estimate the human cost.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Human cost shouldn't be too tricky to guesstimate.

An average US person produces about $142k/year (85k in gdp, divided by 60 % of working age), killed with about 40 years of productive life left is about $5,6 million. Add to that the lowered productivity of the close relations due to grieving and change of circumstance, as well as societal loss of morale, and you're probably looking at a loss of production of just under $6 million/life. And fractions of that depending on disability for non dead casualties (e.g. PTSD or loss of limb might be 50% depending)

The Iranian equivalent is about $400k/life, or less as civilian casualties tend to be older than prime age soldiers.

Now calculating the US cost of loss of Iranian civilian lives would be more challenging (loss of standing, loss of morale, loss of legitimacy, and follow-on actions of instability and discontent).

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you can really put a price on the loss of 175 school kids, plus all the other civilian deaths trumps bruised ego caused.

And that's not even counting the global losses incurred due to increased oil prices, reduced production, etc etc.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I mean, you evidently can, actuaries and the OBE do it all the time, and I even offered an example above.

Does it account for all of their existence - no, Is it useful to - only in a very narrow situation, is it possible - absolutely.

I'd argue the more horrible part is that some people do put a value to others' lives with even less thought than my example, which is why they're wont to bomb civilians for dubious gain.

It's easy to put a price, it's much harder to appreciate the value.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Poetry, ladies and gentlemen! Poetry!!

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 93 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'll never understand until the day I die how any American can watch their tax dollars used to bomb the shit out of a country, and then their tax dollars used to rebuild that same country.....and see that as a win.

Oil down, markets up, keep believing the illusion and everything will surely be ok.....

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

It's been since happening since Nixon was pardoned.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many people don't think. They feel.

When their in-group is going along with something, they go along with it, too. Feels good to them. It's a high.

That's it. That's the problem. It's a big part of why republicans vote against their real-life interests. They're more concerned with chasing the high of being part of the in-group. So, sure, Trump might lose a lot of money and influence and everything, but he's our tribe-mate!

It's stupid. Worse then children. Worse than dogs.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

  • LBJ
[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Now that I think of it, it makes perfect sense that they're always screaming "indoctrination" when left wing ideas like environmentalism or basic kindness are taught to children.... they don't think it's true, just the opposing "feeling" side of their own version of reality. No facts, just feelings. And those feelings go against what their tribe says.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You aren't seeing the opinions of the average American. The average American has no idea what is going on until they ask their coworker why the gas prices are so high. The average American has a coworker that is happy to inform them of the mainstream media narrative, basically telling them that all they can do is "vote". Occasionally getting a MAGA perspective depending on where they live.

But, they won't get pushed into organizing and, quite frankly, they don't have the time or money to even start.

The average American then thinks "hmmm, that doesn't sound right but I don't have time or energy to investigate that".

They move on with their day so long as they can stay above water by leveraging credit card debt and whatever amount of gig work they can fit in. On the rare days they have off work they will recover by either scrolling videos or going out with friends that are just as unknowledgeable about the world as they are. Maybe some of them get a short explanation of the gas prices from a video they watched.

The average American needs their working class conditions improved to give them time to educate themselves. "Wow, they pay for child care in New York City? Thats what socialism is?". This is our one last hope at educating the masses. I don't think electing 100 Mamdani's will change our system from within. But, it is however, the best way to educate and show the population what political power that favors the working class can do.

Either that or, the entire countries material conditions need to decline so drastically that the population is forced into action because they literally can't afford bread to eat. And that will result in higher degrees of fascism as the capitalist state defends itself; and "century of humiliation" levels of conditions will result in America after our empire lashes out to the rest of the world.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The average American has no idea what is going on until they ask their coworker why the gas prices are so high

At which point the average American tilts their head in confusion, seemingly unaware that the US is at war, then complains that everything is political nowadays

Or they get a spoonful of MAGA propaganda, as you mentioned

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Propaganda, it works

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)
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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's hard to keep repeating that $300bn isn't a gift but a repayment for belligerent bombing and murder. The US won't give Iran the money for fun, but will pay to repair the damage and compensate for losses.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until the instant Donald Trump thinks reneging on the agreement will benefit him.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Tomorrow - got it.

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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

A war nobody wanted

Correction, the people a narrow majority of USians elected to the highest offices did want that war. Some of them for decades. Because they’re in the pocket of Israel, that also wanted this war for decades.

Then those people soundly lost that war, and this is the fine you’re paying for that. Not just those people of course, but everyone.

If you wanna thank someone for it, punch the closest MAGA asshole and politely say ‘thank you’

[–] Olmai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Most powerful ? Did you mean: Most arrogant

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