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OK, let's try this again. My post got auto-filtered. Maybe the image triggered something? Anyways, apologies if this isn't the right sub for this. I wanted to get an outsider's perspective on my experience on Lemmy.

Every. Single. Thread. has the word “capitalism” or “Trump” in it somewhere. I’m sick to death of it. Even though I agree with a lot of the sentiment, the erosion of the middle class, the concentration of wealth, the consolidation of media, the “you will own nothing and be happy” mentality permeating the consumer space. In many ways that’s why I joined Lemmy, but dang it that doesn’t mean I want to talk about absolutely nothing else. Someone once defined a fanatic as "Someone who won't change their mind and won't change the subject" and that fits the average Lemming to a T.

And the only communities devoid of politics are also devoid of content. I do a lot of worldbuilding stuff, and I’ve tried to make the worldbuilding community there more active, but sometimes I feel like I’m the only poster. Then I look at r/worldbuilding, and there’s a glut of really interesting posts showcasing people’s imagination and creativity, and nary a mention of Musk or Epstein in sight.

I understand that people's political opinions are bound to show up obliquely in even unrelated communities, but I can't overstate how monomaniacal Lemmings are about it. The pic I originally tried to post was a screenshot of a completely non sequitur post in an unrelated community (sorry for the vagueness I think the specifics may have also tripped the auto filter). And Lemmings are always "on". If you go to mildlyinteresting on lemmy.world right now, you'll see maybe one or two posts about things like yellow stop signs or three-chambered peanuts, you know, stuff that's actually mildly interesting, and every other post is stuff like "French president explains the political consequences of AI". Is that important and worth discussing? Absolutely. What it isn't is mildly interesting.

When I bring this up on Lemmy, the response is always "Politics is everything and we should never shut up ever!" But even Anne Frank wrote about other stuff in her diary sometimes.

And then there’s the tech side of things. Hope you like Linux, cuz that’s all you’re going to see. And if you dare suggest that Linux may not be the right choice for your blind grandmother, you get eviscerated in the comments.

Granted, Reddit itself used to have a similar problem. It attracted a very specific type of user (neckbeards) and the experience wasn’t great if you weren’t one, but ironically the same popularization of Reddit that lead to its platform decay also solved this homogeneity problem. Similarly, Tankies and their ilk seem to flock to Lemmy, explaining the tone of the discourse.

Others have pointed out that Reddit alternatives tend to attract people who were banned from Reddit (remember Voat?) and I think that explains a lot.

In summary, Lemmy seems great if you're a Marxist who uses Linux, but pretty much nobody else. Am I crazy? Should I try to stick with it in the hope it gets better?

so how do we get this guy on Linux? lol

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They are far from the first person who has bailed on Lemmy because of the culture, and their characterization of it isn't far off. I keep saying that Lemmy needs normies for longevity, because most people find constantly on politics incredibly exhausting and won't want to join if they think it's the lefty version of Truth Social.

I'm not saying people should avoid talking about stuff they care about, just that the platform could benefit from everyone being less hostile to wider perspectives and maybe also working on building up more content without a heavy political focus.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Being less hostile overall would be a huge plus.

And I don't mean that people can't criticize or provide constructive feedback. But it can be disheartening to see an interesting thread, sometimes a "normie" thread, and every comment is just negative.

It's fun to talk about stuff you like. It keeps people coming back.

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean... it also sounds like someone browsing ALL or similar, without having taken the time to curate their personal feed. I don't see that as a Fediverse-issue really, but a characteristic of most social media platforms, including Reddit.

Do zero work to set your account up (or don't even have one), and you'll pretty much get the shittiest browsing experience out of all possibilities.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

I don't even remember how I started browsing reddit, and later on participate. But I do know that somewhere down the line I subscribe to subreddots that I like and don't ever browse all. So on my third attempt in Lemmy, I did the same thing I'm used to on reddit, and use piefed instead. Can't stress enough piefed is really the concrete of my foundation staying here. The topics really do make it a bit less stale

OOP still has a good point about being the only poster of smaller less active comms though. I do sometimes comment but yeah I am not a really poster.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

as a long time lemming i will respond with the standard lemmy response:

go back to reddit you fascist, child murdering, genocide supporter

i wonder why people get put off. when your active population might be up to 20% of rabid radicalized leftists how do you expect anything to do with current affairs to go

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 25 points 1 month ago (8 children)

You have to start out with the whole feed and then just block things until it becomes your home feed.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well I am a Marxist who uses linux...

But even Anne Frank wrote about other stuff in her diary sometimes.

Such a banger line lmao. Honestly decent criticisms throughout, I'd love to see more active niche communities that aren't politics related but unfortunately I only know how to shitpost

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 1 month ago

It's just a problem of critical mass. Niche communities are, well... niche. They appeal to only a small subset of the population. For them to be populated enough to be active, the overall user count needs to massively grow. But sometimes it feels like that's not what people on here want. I mean, even in this very thread there are people saying they don't want "normies" here.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is just low population problems, with ten times the pop, we would have different challenges. I agree with you mostly, but even still memes here are just better. Whenever I take a dangerous peek back at reddit is like they opened the 9gag gates, wtf.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I think that this is accurate, but it doesnt make it not a problem right now. After all, you get more posts by getting more people by having enjoyable-to-consume content.

I think most people on reddit (ie, the 90% who don't have an account) are simply happy to look at 9gag shit. "Bored. Look at reddit. Guy fall down funny. Giggle."

Of people who make an account, 90% simply look at the default feed. They are the internet troglodytes who have no interest in having any actual discussion, but who simply feel a desperate need to say literally anything in a public space. "FIRST!!!"

And then there are the 1% of redditors like OOP, who have been on the site for years and who have found niche communities they like to hang out in. These communities have far less bot penetration, and tend to have higher quality posts in general.

OOP is the sort of person Lemmy could use more of, but is running into a bootstrapping problem with.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

I opened reddit for the first time in like 6 months and the site takes 5 minutes to load, random ai trash, half the screen is "click on this you'll find it more interesting!!" made it nearly unusable. Also the huge concentration of bots on reddit, lemmy feels like I'm talking to real people.

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 18 points 1 month ago

Valid criticism, some valid observations. But also you need to make sure you're looking at the majority of federated sites, not just one server for activity.

The majority of my posts and interests are not covered by my home instance yet. I still have a great time on this platform.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Original OP here. They muted and permabanned me from the sub. If I came off dismissive or angry it's because I'm frustrated with the state of the fediverse. I want Lemmy et al. to succeed despite its issues. If I thought it was utter crap I'd just ignore it. I was trying to present my subjective experience in good faith and I hope it came out that way.

I'm a troll, apparently

so how do we get this guy on Linux? lol

Make a screen reader and magnifier that actually work.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A lot of the issues you have with Lemmy is in large part because there’s less people here than Reddit. You really have to curate your subscriptions page to get that kind of algorithm treatment you’re used to from Reddit. There’s a lot of communities here that don’t hit the top posts in all but are still active.

You also kinda have to be the change you want to see and be stubborn about it. Keep posting things you find interesting, throw out those comments on posts even if there’s no other comments or motion. A new community isn’t going to get built up overnight.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

lemmy lacks the niche content that reddit has, and people on reddit are unlikely to subscribe to here anytime soon, since most dont even known lemmy exist. often time when they get banned they look for ways to evade those bans instead.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They muted and permabanned me from the sub.

In my response to this post earlier, I mentioned that one of the problems (which unfortunately reddit shares too) is hostility to other viewpoints, and this is a good example of how that is perpetuated. When a culture on a platform is too homogeneous, disagreement becomes so shocking that it's seen as "trolling", "bad faith", "offensive", etc. I think it's partially a symptom of the reddit-like structure of voting + active moderation, but it's also very much the culture.

You presented your points well and fairly, and even if you hadn't, I think we all need to get comfortable with the fact that normal humans sometimes interact in a manner that doesn't sound like an HR mediation session, and that's ok too.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was trying to present my subjective experience in good faith and I hope it came out that way

It didn't, it just sounds like astroturfing and/or being lazy.

If a completely new person went to reddit for the first time (before all the corporate sanitization that has happened in the last couple of years) they were going to see shit they didn't want to see. They were going to have to put in some effort telling "the system" what they like and what they don't. After you've done that, it was an interesting way to spend your downtime. Without it, it was just the void yelling back. Same is pretty true for Lemmy. If you don't put in any effort to block the stuff you don't like and/or subscribe to the stuff you do, you aren't going to see any value. Yes, it is smaller than reddit - that's how social media starts. There isn't going to be 21 years of content chilling out on a platform that is 6 years old.

Also, bitching about hearing about Linux is just lazy. You're on FOSS social media and get surprised when people there mostly don't use corporate slop closed source OS's on their personal machines? Okie Dokie.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, bitching about hearing about Linux is just lazy. You’re on FOSS social media and get surprised when people there mostly don’t use corporate slop closed source OS’s on their personal machines? Okie Dokie.

I want you to do me a favor. Any other Linux user reading this, I want you to try this, too. Turn on Orca and unplug your monitor. No, don't just close your eyes, don't just turn your monitor off, actually unplug it. Remove your monitor from your desk if applicable. Now, try to do the following:

  1. browse Lemmy using Firefox, chrome, or a derivative of either. Make a comment, post something, and vote on someone else's post or comment
  2. check your email, and respond to any if warranted
  3. watch a few YouTube videos using Firefox, Chrome, or a derivative of either (yes we still say "watch" even if we can't see it)
  4. write a document using LibreOffice Writer. Include formatting like headings and style changes. Be sure to check your spelling
  5. check the time, the status of your network connection, your battery percentage, etc.
  6. copy a file from one place to another
  7. Insert a USB device and verify its contents
  8. check the weather in your area using Firefox, Chrome, or a derivative of either.
  9. Using Firefox, Chrome, or a derivative of either, find the closest transit stop to you, how to get there by foot, and what buses/trains/etc depart
  10. Using Firefox, Chrome, or a derivative of either, read the wikipedia article on accessibility and bookmark it
  11. Do anything required by your job: write and debug code, print reports, research business cases, update documentation, use whatever tools your job would require you to use.

Once you've done all that, and before plugging your monitor back in, send me a PM detailing your experience. How many of the tasks did you successfully complete? Were you able to complete them in a timely manner and with a comparable amount of cognitive burden compared to doing it sighted? Were you able to perform your job duties? If so, would you be able to continue doing them this way for the remainder of your career? If you were in charge of hiring someone for your position, would you accept the level of work you did? For the more leisurely tasks like watching YT or using Lemmy, did you enjoy your experience? Was it relaxing? Would you willingly consume content this way.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alas, you're responding to something they didn't say. You quoted something they said, then switched the topic to why you can't use Linux instead of what was quoted.

Your complaint is totally valid, but the quote you uses add the springboard for it was not a good choice.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, I realize it was a non sequitur, and I'm sorry. But it was kinda the straw that broke the camel's back. Quoting from a comment I left on the original reddit post:

Honestly the militant Linux stuff is what really gets me. I'm legally blind, and rely on various assistive technologies like screen readers and magnifiers that simply do not exist on Linux or aren't fit for use. I've been trying Linux on and off for sixteen years now. Mostly various *buntus but also things like CentOS (RIP) and Arch^btw^. Accessibility has only gotten worse with the transition from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 and from X to Wayland. It's nonexistent on KDE. A11Y is an afterthought even for billion dollar companies with the resources to devote to it, so I'm pessimistic that a loosely organized group of devs all working independently on their own little corners of the larger project that is desktop Linux will ever measure up to even that afterthought. But whenever I say that I've repeatedly tried Linux in good faith for over a decade and a half, that I will continue doing so, and that I envy those whose needs are met by Linux and other FOSS software but I simply can't switch, I get downvoted to oblivion and told I'm the problem.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I mean, he's not too far off. Lemmy is not big enough to support the same amount of communities as reddit does. Right now Lemmy can support tabletop RPG but not world building

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Skill issue. To be less flippant, you have to do some work up front and there is no algorithm to do it for you. I have an account on a few instances and between them I have plenty of variety and activity in spaces that are not just politically focused. Try other strategies if the one you're using doesn't yield the results you want.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The person who typed this out has definitely been putting in the effort in worldbuilding.

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[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes but we need to make this stuff require 0 skill

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hard disagree. That's how "brain rot" has become an actual thing and not just a meme phrase. Putting effort into something is good for your brain.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its also how you consistently turn people off your platform until it becomes irrelivant.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think it really takes significant "skill" to tell the systems in place what you want to see and what you don't. Blocking the bad and subscribing to the good. It is basically how all of "the algorithms" worked 15-ish years ago.

Now they buy/sell/trade your data so much they know what your first significant other's crotch smells like even though you forgot and they use that to tease your subconscious into remembering what it was like to feel loved so long as you keep scrolling the platform.

I don't think it is definitely a bad thing to not do exactly the thing that is getting world governments to start considering legislating access to social media because of how toxic it is.

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[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This person is 100% about the relentless usaian political whinging. It's so hard to find anything cool and fun on here.

Slrpnk had more but got blown up and unrelenting drama seeking "power users" (lmao) drove off most of the interesting people.

Same thing happened to masto

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Slrpnk had more but got blown up and unrelenting drama seeking "power users" (lmao) drove off most of the interesting people.

Could you elaborate what you mean? I've been a slrpnk admin for near 3 years, and I haven't seen any power user drama addicts on the instance. I'm also not sure what you mean by blown up (too popular? We're still a smallish instance with 380 monthly users).

Personally I think we still have quite a lot of interesting posts and discussions in our communities.

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[–] Sergio@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whenever I recommend Lemmy/Piefed to a friend, I point them to a feed with low/no politics and low/no tech:

[–] IndigoForever@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thank god and thank you, I dunno why the spam of politics is there. I go to protests every time, vote every election, etc. but it’s mentally exhausting I just want to chill.

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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, there’s other stuff here, you just have to look for it a bit

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Finding them shouldn’t be so hard though. Surely we can make the search function better. If I search for a community I’d at least like to be greeted by the most active versions at the top. I’ve no idea how it ranks them right now.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 month ago

yea https://lemmyverse.net/communities is better for that

also we should probably have starter packs of communities for users to subscribe to, I know Lemmy v1.0 will allow us to do this, and PieFed already can do this (but I think it's underutilized for this purpose)

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Absolutely correct, no notes

[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

were banned from Reddit

I was banned off reddit plenty of times - never stopped me from going back. What finally drove me off is the post-Oct 7th liberal counter-insurgency campaign that made serious political discussion on reddit next-to impossible.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair in many respects but also I think he may be unaware of the ideologies that go unchallenged and invisibly by in his "non political" communities. Sorry we're woke and notice things??

... if you dare suggest that Linux may not be the right choice for your blind grandmother, you get eviscerated in the comments.

Stopped reading here, this is just the view of someone who isn't used to being in a community that treats windows as the few facto choice.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Find a Lemmy instance that heavily moderates political speech, then. That may be hard to find since Lemmy is full of people who expressed their political opinions on reddit and were banned.

The people coming here after the third party API shutdown, I'm sorry, but you made a political protest. You are doing the politics. If you don't like what Reddit is doing as a company, you are engaging in politics. You need to stop expressing your personal opinions and views for Reddit if you want to claim political apathy. Otherwise, you are engaging in political speech, and that's "bad" apparently, so stop it!

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

He isn't wrong, but you also need to block/filter out the tankie instances.

Also there is a lot of trans persons content. I didn't see thr OP mention that.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

in reddit ALL on old.reddit you can filter all the subs you dont wan to see.

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