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Fedora Kinoite vs. Silverblue: My verdict after testing both immutable Linux distros (www.zdnet.com)
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On top of Bazzite it seems like there is a new wave of immutable linux operating systems, do you think there is interest in a general community about immutable linux distros? I linked to this article as a general explanation of the the Fedora immutable operating systems, but Bazzite is also another one that is actually specifically focused on gaming.

https://bazzite.gg/

I feel like the Steam hardware community could benefit from collecting useful tips and tools from people tackling similar problems we do with Steam Decks that people have on other immutable-core operating systems.

Distrobox use for various different things that otherwise would be a pain with an immutable operating system obviously being a big one!

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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

tl;dr: author got tripped-up over fedora's flatpak repo and having to click once to enable flathub in kinoite.

but Bazzite is also another one that is actually specifically focused on gaming.

its sibling, aurora kde, is the one i nearly went with. in fact i still have it sitting on this pc's twin (have two identical ones, bought before the market went to shit). the flatpak-only environment was giving me constant headaches. i ended up on debian, and it's been an absolute dream. it's great to be back 'home', i haven't had a pure debian desktop in years.

fedora's immutables are nice. just 'not for me' (right now). i'll still suggest and install them for others, though, because for basic tasks and newcomers it's a solid and hard-to-break choice.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the flatpak-only environment was giving me constant headaches.

It's not, though: https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the term 'clipboard' is not present anywhere in flatpak, bazzite, or fedora atomic documentation.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the term ‘clipboard’ is not present anywhere in flatpak, bazzite, or fedora atomic documentation.

What has that to do with the wrong claim that Bazzite is Flatpak-only?

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

immutable distributions use flatpaks as their source for desktop applications, it is what they recommend you use.

most (endless os does not) support layering, but they also advise against it unless you have to. even bazzite says to do and try literally every other option, even running a windows binary under emulation, before layering packages. they know their shit better than i do, so i'm not gonna layer a ton of packages and depends for dozens of applications just so i can use a clipboard or drag stuff between any them.

nor do i want added complexity of screwing around with toolbx containers. for one program to try or to run temporarily for a one-off task or very specific thing you don't want your system cluttered with? sure. i've got a couple things set up right now using toolbx. for 30+ desktop applications, some of which are large or pull in a bunch of depends? hell no. it's not the right tool.

i also do not need or want yet another package manager and binary repos in brew, and brew doesn't have that much i'd be looking at anyway.

appimages are not really the answer either, not everything has one, some are built upon fuse v2 (no longer supported), and some are third-party builds you might not want to trust.

so, that leaves flatpaks as 'the' source for desktop applications--unless you are fond of terminal screens and hoop-jumping, needless added complexity, or want to go against the strong recommendations of the folks that literally make your immutable rpm-ostree based distribution.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

Distrobox seems to be what you're missing. I've used my immutable install for years now. I use it for half devwork and half gaming, and have never run into not being able to run something. I'm also confused about what you mean by clipboard in this context.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

i also do not need or want yet another package manager and binary repos in brew, and brew doesn’t have that much i’d be looking at anyway.

And yet brew is available out of the box. As is distrobox. Still no idea what your clipboard comment has to do with anything.

[–] bluesquid0741b@aussie.zone 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What are the new ones?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok sure they aren't new but do you not think there is a rising interest in these operating systems? Especially for gaming purposes where more and more people want an immutable linux distro for the consistency and reliability?

My point is there is a natural intersection of interest here between people who want a good linux video game focused immutable distros and people who want immutable linux distros for things other than gaming like development for example.

[–] bluesquid0741b@aussie.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure. I thought you may be sharing news about some new ones.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

Sorry I m

[–] amlor@piefed.social -1 points 13 hours ago

Sadly fedora went full slop