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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Its CEO is only disappointed that the repair costs are so low. This is by design.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This is why it is such a shame that all the major auto manufacturers could not be bothered to produce a decent cheap EV. They have repairability figured out from the start. They already have dealers, parts, crash safety, etc all worked out.

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

The first two generations of the Nissan Leaf and the Chevy Bolt are the closest to what you're describing.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago

they had spent money last adminstration to put 100% tariffs on foreign evs.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Whatever, fuck cars.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We used a one-piece body side, and so that means if you damage like the rear fender, the repair operation, depending on the level of the damage, you can either do body work or you have to cut out a portion of the panel, re-weld the new panel on,

So, a problem of design that didn't really think about repairability

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not even a mechanic and I can tell you that no car company thinks about repairability.

Hell, just replacing a consumable like the battery can be a major chore that requires far more disassembly than anyone with a functional braincell would consider appropriate on some cars.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You'd think cars, at least, will be built under the assumption they'll typically have to be repaired rather than replaced.

[–] historicaldocuments@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They used to be. Go back far enough in time and you could climb up under the hood into the engine bay to work on it. All that went by the wayside to get smaller packaging, lighter weight, and better fuel efficiency.

Now you need special tools or special code readers to solve/diagnose all vehicle problems. The large scale farmers are dealing with this now with the large combines and harvesters needing a tech with special equipment to read all the codes where the older tractors from the 70s and 80s can be repaired.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Uncle had a truck, I dont remember what brand or what year. But I do remember him climbing into the engine bay and sitting on the front tire well to work on the engine, because I was on the other tire well watching him. and we both had absolutely loads of room to move around. more so me, being a kid, but he was a big man and he still could slither around everywhere in that engine bay to get at what needed got at.

vehicles, especially trucks, used to have an insane amount of space under the hood for working on the engine.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

I used to think that until I worked on a friends 70s muscle car. The spark plugs on the drivers aide are a pain because the steering shaft runs directly down beside plug 5 and 7. But overall all the plugs and boots suck because they are tucked under the exhaust manifold.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So funny story, I hit the back of my husband's Rivian on accident and we need to file a claim. I'm fucking terrified now.

[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean if it's just a fender bender, who cares? Bumpers are meant to bend. Do you think it was hit hard enough to cause actual structural damage?

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

No but I didn't think the bill could be that high for bumper damage. It's full coverage, it would just suck if they totaled it.

[–] west2seven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like the rivian cars, but i have worked for years as a hardware engineer and i am 100 percent certain this was a known issue. I have seen design scrutinized on so much less and this is just such an obvious issue...

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't scrutinize then you don't find any issues?

[–] west2seven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago

The issues get fixed before production, except, not in this case it seems.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Rivian and Tesla are trying to hit price points with lower volumes so they are 100% aiming to reduce manufacturing costs even if it creates scenarios like this.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Careful with this posting it is an antique. The guy had a paintless dent repair

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (8 children)

TL:DR: Poor scale and awareness due to being a niche brand, overly large aluminum body panels requiring either massive replacements or complicated welding, small shops guessing that it must be even more exotic and expensive than the CEO claims, and insurers shrugging and moving on because the volumes aren't hitting their financials hard enough for them to care.

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[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 74 points 2 days ago (20 children)

I got into a fender bender with my Buick and they totalled it because the fender was worth half as much as the car. They're doing something very wrong in car design.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used to drive an Isuzu Trooper. I got rear-ended which totaled my car. Theoretically it was repairable, but when your car is old enough to vote it doesn't take much damage for it to get totaled.

There was other damage, but one thing that still pisses me off is that a few hundred bucks of that calculation was my spare tire cover, which had some cracks after the accident, and the insurance company would not let that drop.

It was a plastic shell that is mostly just decorative that covered the spare bolted to the back of my vehicle. I didn't care that it was cracked, it in no way affected the safety of my vehicle, I would have happily driven that car for another decade with it being cracked, if they slapped 5¢ worth of epoxy on it I would have been more than satisfied, or hurry they could have just thrown the damn thing away and I guess my spare would get a little dirtier that it would if it was covered.

But they had to include that in the repair cost estimate, and since it was kind of an uncommon older car, replacement spare tire covers were scarce and pricey and added a few hundred bucks onto the estimate.

I don't know if that was the thing that pushed me over the edge to a total loss but it certainly didn't help

I had a perfectly mechanically sound vehicle that was paid off, and could possibly still be on the road today, and instead I got stuck with a couple years of car payments on a car I liked less than that one.

[–] com@mander.xyz 4 points 23 hours ago

Isuzu Trooper mentioned! Consumer Reports did them dirty with the rollover test rigging. Really hurt the sales. Glad to see them on the decline as a reputable information source.

Yeah the spare parts are an issue for less common vehicles. I was getting some Trooper parts from Australia before the tariffs messed that up for awhile. Really a shame how many cars are scrapped by insurance. Cash for clunkers not allowing parts to be sold also didn't help much.

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (21 children)

The market is ripe for the equivalent of a wileys jeep ev. Cheap to buy, repair amd capable with no frills.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Closest to that is a base trim Bolt. Considering inflation since COVID, 29k is pretty decent for the US market.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You are close to describing the Slate truck

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Too bad it’s backed by Bozos

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That would be part me saying "close to" for sure

Seriously, I need this bad. I'm about to get a rikshaw instead

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Make the software foss too and i'm in

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but all the manufacturers don't want to lower their profit margins.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

That means room for new manufacturers.

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