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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Why does humanity have to keep fighting the same fights against different governments over and over again?

Cannot governments, for once, be even slightly on the side of a free society?

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

States are built on control. They literally only exist because they are the dominant power structure in a specific area.

States pushing for more freedom is antithetical.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

The problem is that tracking people is big money, so tech companies like Google, Meta, Palantir, Flock, etc stand to make a lot of money. So they're heavily ~~bribing~~ lobbying governments to make it easier to track people

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago

I agree with that (unlike the other answer I got to this; yeah, Soviet-aligned states were definitely very free societies amirite /s), but then again, sometimes there are more or less successful movements toward more freedom. The history of the 20th century alone is that of the century ending with much more freedom in the world than there was during most of it. How have we completely forgotten those values?

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Because we have capitalism.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lets be real, NordVPN has done so many shady things themselve (fake limited time discount on their website which is illegal in many regions of the world), no one who knows about these and cares about data protection and privacy would use it anyway.

But nice that they add some pressure ig.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

It's an easy way for them to gain some reputation to monetize it later.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Place your bets everyone, which way do you think this will go?

  1. Canada doesn't pass the surveillance law

  2. The law passes and some/all of Signal/DDG/NordVPN remain anyway

  3. The law passes and they exit Canada

  4. (something else)

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

2 or 3

I guess signal has more to lose in reputation, than Canada brings them as country

For the other ones, I don't know

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 hours ago

Or

  • the law passes with exceptions to specifically these 3 that threatened to leave
[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

I'm thinking the law passes but the courts kill it due to it violating our Charter. I also feel that the tech companies will not wait for the court case to conclude before leaving Canada.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

#2 DDG might not leave, Signal might do something maliciously compliant, and NordVPN will just leave.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How could signal comply? It would ruin their brand.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Maliciously comply.

Maybe have app available in Canada, but it only lets users email the government.

[–] roomy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do they have over Canada? why should they care?

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If Signal were to make a backdoor for the government, that would compromise the security of all users world-wide.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -2 points 13 hours ago

Indeed. Although I suspect there already is a back door for the US government, just not one anyone knows about.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

XMPP, TOR, and a few 20 4get instances will still be there. All good.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

4get.ca

I can now quickly identify various birds, minecraft areas, and those weird anime plushy things no problem.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

See? It even comes with a brain teaser to keep you sharp. SearXNG eat your heart out.