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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 5 points 16 hours ago

I pulled the fuse that runs that stuff in my car. Don't need anything it disabled, so I don’t give a fuck.

Sure if I ever need service it might be a problem, but I’ll cross that bridge when and if I get to it, and maybe we’ll have better data protections by then.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nope! I have a 20+ y/o car, so mine is not. No touch screen, no spyware, just a car with button and knobs that we drive around.

[–] zurchpet@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

If it's not your car then it's your smart phone.

Hard to escape the surveillance machine (i.e. unregulated marketing and their data collection).

I'm in it too...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Car companies will tell you themselves if you wade through their privacy policies. The information they harvest can include precise location data about everywhere you go, who's in the car with you, what's on the radio and whether you buckle your seatbelt, drive too fast or brake too hard. Some can gather details you might not expect like your weight, age, race and facial expressions. Do you pick your nose? Some cars have cameras on the inside pointed at the driver's seat. And most come with internet connections that can ship off that data as you drive in blissful ignorance.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

If you own your car (not paying off a loan or a lease) you can remove the sim card/ internet module from your car. It may cause some features to stop working (nothing that impares the vehicle) but it stops the car from actually sending the data it's collecting

[–] scottrepreneur@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

All new cars this year are required to have driver monitoring camera (DMC) systems.

[–] rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Though the two 2024 reports documented some promising technologies, neither report found commercially available technology that detects driver alcohol impairment accurately and passively.”

So what tech are they gonna use? Something that doesn't exist yet? How does a camera sort a drunk person from someone with a disability? Is this going to deny black people at double the rate just because facial tech has a harder time with dark complexions?

There are going to be so many lawsuits with the inevitable amount of false positives this will produce. A little tired this morning? Well now you've lost your job as well because your car wouldn't start because it decided you weren't in a perfect emotional state to drive.

[–] Ice@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

Luckily I drive a piece of last-millenium machinery.

May the japanese engineers that designed it with reliability in mind be praised.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

How hard would it be for a skilled person to disconnect the antenna/com-module (or disrupt connection in general) in a way that still allows for updates of the software, if I chose to install them?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You may be able to disable the antenna or SIM/cellular device, that wouldn't be too hard, but to receive updates you would need to reconnect them, and who knows how much data the car stores while it has no connection?

I assume you can't just download updates on your PC and install them manually on your car.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if you go to the shop, that’s what they’d do, right? I doubt they’re burning EEPROMs or anything more advanced than a custom connector.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

When you go to a shop chances are their scan tool is connected to the internet and has the ability to download data.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Which means you should be able to, too - right? Might take a 1337 h4x0r to figure it out first, but then - pirate cars. Yarr.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lol. Yeah. Maybe. But maybe you end up bricking your ECM or TCM and then your car won't start.

And if you can do it, so can the guy who wants to rip out your headlight and jack in to steal it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And if you can do it, so can the guy who wants to rip out your headlight and jack in to steal it.

Hasn’t that always been the case?

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 1 points 18 hours ago

To some extent probably. But we have AI LLM'S now and more technology in our pockets than ever before. There's a reason there was so much hubabaloo over the flipper zero a few years ago.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago

That's what I'm hoping for. Also I might judt leave it disconnected. If there is no connection, the software also doesn't need security updates.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

In the United States, that’s 5 years in prison. Because it’s done with computer. Computer rules strict, so make everything computer.

Bypassing a digital lock, section 1201 DMCA

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

everyone should buy/wear these new driving hats I found

Driving Hat