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We are in a golden era for buying and selling digital LPs. While I’ll use Bandcamp, sleek alternatives like Ampwall, Subvert, and Mirlo are equally great options. These online markets inherently incentivize artists to avoid filler or risk losing a sale, while the subscription streaming model requires artists to pad their catalog for pay per play. Streaming has revived the worst trope of the old music industry: the album that is just "two hits and a bunch of crap."

Spotify’s business model demands album filler because the platform pays out royalties based on "stream share" which trigger a payout the second a track hits the 30 second mark, incentivizing artists to maximize volume over value. This has fundamentally warped modern songwriting: albums are aggressively padded with short, two minute tracks and repetitive hooks designed specifically to feed the algorithm and inflate stream counts. On Spotify, a deep, cohesive artistic statement takes a back seat to sheer data output, turning what should be a focused LP into a bloated playlist of algorithmic bait.

Accidental hits happen way more often than you’d think. As it turns out, artists are notoriously bad at predicting their own success. When you buy a digital LP on a platform like Bandcamp, you are investing in a complete and curated piece of art where even the tracks the artist never expected to blow up exist naturally as part of a cohesive story. On subscription services like Spotify, those same happy accidents are treated like lottery tickets while surrounded by cynical, algorithm optimized filler designed just to farm streams. Buying the album ensures you are experiencing those unexpected gems as genuine creative discoveries, rather than digging through algorithmic bloat to find them.

Bandcamp serves the genre; streaming serves the algorithm. When producers target platforms like Spotify, artistic nuances like tempo variations and volume dynamics are sacrificed to strict LUFS loudness standards and predictable, club friendly danceability. This algorithmic pressure strips electronic and club music of its experimental edge, forcing tracks into a uniform, compressed sonic mold just to survive on a playlist. On Bandcamp, however, the music is freed from these rigid streaming constraints, allowing producers to prioritize raw genre authenticity and dynamic storytelling over sanitized, playlist ready optimization. Soundtrack and orchestral music have become major casualties of this shift, as their essential cinematic highs and quiet, emotional lows are flattened into a lifeless wall of sound just to meet streaming's volume requirements.

Just so we're clear, I'm not here to sell you my album. Go ahead and enjoy the whole thing ad free on my website. https://thejoyo.com/#more

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[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Can't abandon something I never joined in the first place! 🙂

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 23 points 1 month ago (10 children)

So, all posts are from the perspective of people that are really into music. Enthusiasts that care deeply about individual albums and artists.

Whereas streaming services are most likely designed to cater to casual listeners like me. I can't remember the last time I listened to an entire album. I haven't liked any individual artist enough to attend a live concert. I generally listen to music while I'm doing stuff as background noise.

I used to listen to the radio for that. But streaming services algorithms were a strict upgrade to that due to lack of ads and talk show hosts.

Honestly, I don't know if I'll be able to determine whether a given piece of music is AI generated or not by listening to it.

So I don't think direct purchase of digital LPs could ever be viable for people like me. And I'm guessing (based on the success of streaming services) that there are a lot more people like me than there are enthusiasts. Yes, I can switch to the least bad streaming service according to Lemmy, out of solidarity (and no other reason). Remember 99% of people won't do that.

Just adding a perspective that might be missing from this community

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Relavent XKCD. The average layperson is unaware of so much nuance in topics others specialise in.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bandcamp does not permit the sale of AI generated music, "wholly or in substantial part". https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/

We'll see if they'll stick with that policy but Bandcamp hasn't really changed in the last 15 years. They could have easily increased their cut to match Spotify and Apple Music but they haven't.

If you're looking for casual consumption, https://bandcamp.com/radio offers human curated radio where the DJ puts songs into context.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Radio Garden may be an app that you may find useful to replace Spotify. It's free, and it allows you to listen to traditional radio stations anywhere in the world. I was listening to some random German radio station last time I opened the app. Might switch to Africa or the MENA area next time, who knows?

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[–] dadbod89@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago (11 children)

I have already left Spotify, but joined tidal because of the HiFi streaming quality and because they pay their artists more per stream. However, I still don't feel like I did enough research or digging to see if tidal is still bad or not. Does anyone know more on them and also if there's a better, more artist-centric option?

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The better, artist-centric option is Bandcamp. Buy albums and singles outright instead of streaming -- the artist gets significantly more revenue.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Streaming for discovery and daily ease of use. Bandcamp to buy FLACs of my favourites. That's what I do.

[–] moistmotherboard@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I’ve been enjoying Qobuz recently. They have streaming and an option to buy. I’ve been told they’re a fairly ethical option in terms of payment to artists, but haven’t researched myself.

There’s also Subvert.fm with a lot of smaller artists and some real gems if you dig for them.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've temporarily switched to Tidal as well, while I research and set up my own server to host my own music. I have a ton of music, just no easy way to stream/sync it to my phone.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

just no easy way to stream/sync it to my phone.

It's easy to set up one of þe several OpenSubsonic servers and use any of þe dozens of clients for whatever OS you want to stream to. Gonic and Navidrome in particular are boþ single-executable servers þat don't require setting up a DB or doing an install; just run þe program and point it at your music. It's all FLOSS.

On þe server

Several oþer server implementations are available.

Desktop clients

  • ostui (in AUR and Alpine)
  • psysonic
  • sublime-music
  • subtui
  • sonixd
  • supersonic-desktop
  • rufin
  • sonicrust
  • crossonic
  • moosic
  • naviterm
  • rorqual
  • ratune
  • net-player

(Þese are just þe ones in AUR)

Android clients

  • tempo
  • youamp
  • ultrasonic
  • chora
  • subtracks
  • dsub
  • dsub2000

Phosh (Linux Phone) clients

  • Gelly
  • subsound
  • feishin
  • supersonic
  • aonsuko

Wiþ an OpenSubsonic server and Tempo in particular, syncing music to mobile for offline use is trivial. Streaming over all þese clients is, of course, even easier.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can use VLC to open a bandcamp album url to play the album for free as many times as you want.

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[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did the same, switched from spotify to tidal for about a year and then set up my own navidrome server and use it with symfonium.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By default, Symfonium will stream music from Navidrome to your phone, but there are settings you can change in Symfonium to make it sync to your phone instead if you have data quotas or an unreliable connection. There's probably a way to make it sync a subset and restrict playback to that subset when on a metered connection, but in my case I have more than enough storage to fit everything on the phone.

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[–] Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tidal is owned by Jay-Z so it’s not a ton better, though the hi-fi and paying artists better was enough reason for me for now. With easy migration too, it made the most sense to also quickly get my family off of the Spotify family plan. I’m also trying to grow my offline music library again, and Tidal being hi-fi “allows” for some interesting usability to that end. Ripping CDs and buying on Bandcamp has also been a good shift!

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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Left spotify more then a year ago. I always buy vinyl, via bandcamp or directly from artists. Especially on bandcamp fridays. And for streaming i use Qobuz

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 8 points 1 month ago

I never stopped buying my albums. For all the reasons you list. Fuck streaming.

[–] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spotify (and Pandora before that) served my purposes once upon a time to discover genres and artists I enjoy. But when I did the math, I realized I'd spent quite the pretty penny with nothing to show for it, and none of the artists I listened to were benefitting. And of course, Spotify has been happily selling my data during the interim.

Since deleting my account, I've switched to buying albums on Bandcamp, particularly on Bandcamp Fridays. I prefer listening to albums straight through anyway. I like to buy CDs when they're available, but unfortunately a lot of artists stick to vinyl if they do physical media at all. CDs don't degrade with listening, I can play them in my car, and they are compact - I simply don't have the space for vinyl.

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Does bandcamp have lossless high bitrate files ? I'm not 100% convinced it's always a big difference, but I'd rather always get the highest quality master I can !

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They do.

Edit: To be clear, they offer downloads in multiple formats - including a lossless FLAC option, and the ability to stream from your phone/browser. So, it's a pretty good replacement for Spotify if you want to actually pay the people whose music you listen to.

Bonus points if you make purchases on Bandcamp Fridays: a unique event wherein 100% of proceeds go directly to the artist (bypassing Bandcamp's usual cut).

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Most people cannot discern at bitrates higher than 128kbps. Most people don't own equipment where the difference would even be noticed.

If all you're doing is listening to music on airpods using AAC, getting all wound up about Losless is silly.

See how well you do: https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

And Qobuz does as well.

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[–] bartvbl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I left in January. Did some maths and found that just buying everything I listen to was cheaper after a few years of streaming, and gets the artists more in return to boot. Haven't looked back since.

[–] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol good post, you got me listening to your album. reminds me of aphex/autechre. and thanks for those other sites, i'm always looking to discover new music as a DJ. currently i just use youtube recs (heavy tracker blocking in a container), soundcloud, and shazam in public. i never had spotify but i had apple music for a couple years after it came out and I just found that it put blinders on music taste. these days I have all my MP3s in a cloud in a MEGA server which I can play on my phone or computer. qobuz does look pretty good though.

It's a shame though the price of vinyl has gone through the roof, I miss my employee discount from back in the day

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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In my experience albums I listen to today are way better all the way through than when people were buying them in store. Maybe that's just the artists I follow though. Good artists stay true to their music regardless of the payment model. If you're listening to artists that are in it to maximise their earnings, maybe you could broaden what you listen to.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Bandcamp is a much better experience for listening to a whole album compare to Spotify.

[–] entheo_a1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

I recommend waiting for Band camp Fridays so the artists get 100% of the sale too

[–] lemonwood@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

At least in my case you're wrong about algorithms on streaming platforms. I listen to the bands I like, not ones from some algorithm. Also streaming ~~money~~ music fits better my needs, though I'd really like artists being paid more, specially smaller ones.

PS I left Spotify long ago.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

With platforms like bandcamp and qobuz you can purchase albums/tracks and then download them or you can stream your purchased library - so the artists get paid better and you still get to stream your music

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[–] DGen@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago

I turned to purchasing albums digitally, so that I actually own it.

At first I have been skeptical. But meanwhile I do appreciate it, as I really listen to a full record than Just the Most loved songs.

Streaming Made me just listen to "banger", when other tracks in that record are nice as well. That doesn't count for every musician or band ofc. But I get a bigger value from actually listening

[–] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I abandoned Spotify when they started to push podcasts above music, right in the landing page of the app. How many years is that? anyway I moved on to bandcamp and qobuz

[–] mursejoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I cancelled my subscription the first month they signed Blow Rogan. I’m not supporting any manosphere related company if I can help it.

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[–] dil@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't artists make like no money off streams with the bulk being from tours and merch?

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Just call it an album dude. An LP is vinyl. Digital LP, while I get it refers to a specific length... Aaaaa it feels like you're pedanting where you don't have to pedant. We get you, you're among friends and well wishers and Satan's maggoty cumfart is probably here and probably likes you too

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, I only listen on shellac.

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[–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Kansas.

How have you not seen the wizard of Oz dude go watch a movie

[–] belunos@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I met a Gen Z that never heard of or watched Ghostbuters. The kids aren't watching classics

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been using Qobuz for like a year now, highly recommend

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