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[–] Soot@hexbear.net 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I end up very concerned by this kind of thing. Big money in the Linux space very frequently (though not always) creates more closed, proprietary Linuxes, rather than expanding and improving the open-source wider ecosystem.

[–] thanatotus@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Proprietary linuxes? What does that mean in reality? Do you mean android?

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

lol, $100k+... HP revenue in 2024 was $53,559,000k.

Dell same year $88,000,000k and Lenovo $69,000,000k, so ~$50B to $90B

I let you calculate the percentage but... I'd guesstimate it's approximately nothing.

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Revenue is not operational profit

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Right... which... is why I wrote revenue and not operational profit? Was I unclear? What should I have shared instead? Please feel free to clarify directly with whatever you believe would be better and why, we can all learn.

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

What is this condescending tone, is this what they call redditor energy

[–] markz@suppo.fi 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What should I have shared instead?

I'm guessing operational profit

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Damn, sounds like a wild guess though, how about revenue? /s

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Revenue says basically nothing in this kind of context. HP's earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

Genuinely confused now, are you say "your nothing" is different from "my nothing"?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago

I was really consufed by your chain of comments.

You stated revenue, which doesn’t say anything about profit. Then you argue that that is true and say that is why you posted revenue.

Which is why I posted the profit or HP of 2024

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Soon subscription is coming up for fwupd

[–] racoon@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

“This HPLinux only works on snapd. Please enable snapd on systemd in order to boot”

[–] racoon@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Black screen of death: “A green pixel is faulty on your display. The driver cannot output any image until it’s fixed”

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 7 points 18 hours ago

Monitor ran out of cyan, can't show image. Please replace with Genuine HP Color Display Cartridge^tm to correct.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 1 points 11 hours ago

Can someone ELI5? Is this extremely token gesture an appreciative nod or strings (visible or not) attached trojan horse?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thats pretty great of HP tbh, still fuck them im never buying another HP laptop after my last one suffered from a case of HP (Hinge Problems)

[–] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

Hostile Printers

[–] racoon@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

HdP stands for SoB in Spanish. Most accurate name ever

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago

Hey, putas are at least useful for something and they're still human, as are their hijos.

[–] sakphul@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 18 hours ago

Let's go! I want more of this! Better hardware/firmware support is always appreciated.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago

Still, fuck HP.

[–] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

FYI HP (and Dell, but not Lenovo) are priority targets on the BDS list. Please do not support them even if they support Linux.

[–] vort3@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's the "BDS" list? Never heard of it.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 8 points 19 hours ago

I read it as "BSD" at first glance and i was like "damn, i didn't knew the Linux communty declared war on BSD" 😭

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

Siemens is on there?

As an electrical engineer, I guess I know which company is NOT selling my circuit breakers now.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sooo, i get it but this still doesn't explain what BDS is. Boycott Dis Shit?

edit- my ADHD ass missed the link.

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hate when I already don't buy from any of these companies, so I can't really join the boycott for this. At least some of them I am boycotting for other reasons, not just because they make a shit product. Intell, for example, I'll buy from AMD every time first.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago

AMD's not just in Israel, Lisa Su has been visiting the white house lately.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Sadly, AMD is in Israel as well, although to a lesser degree.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

.... Why... or how, would McDonald's support Israel and the IDF?

I mean, that seems such an easy target to avoid and just go "I'm staying out of this one" for any company, but McDonald's? That just has to be for the sport

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they give away free food to the idf.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cruelly ironic, considering the IDF used starvation as a weapon.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

even more so when you consider that they're using healthier ingredients for the idf instead of the toxic sludge that they serve to americans.

[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Boycott divest and sanction israel

[–] phar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn I just looked that up and WIX is on the list. WTF, WIX? Damnit

[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They're an Israeli company so they're included by default. I think they just get their own entry as they a decently large organisation.

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[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Great news for the foundation, still sorry HP but you have burned me regarding your printers

[–] quantumvoid0@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

ik HP has a Linux laptop and all but this company is definitely the last company I thought would do smt like this

[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

me too but i don't think its a good idea to to trust their good gesture yet; their product lines are still hella closed and not allow for much customization. even in the rare instances they allow to they impose arbitrary limitation and/or require their software

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

Think about it. Right now, windows is a fucking hog of an OS. It takes up huge space, gas huge overhead, and needs huge amounts of ram. Ram and storage are expensive as hell right now.

Linux can run well on a laptop on decade old tech (One of my old laptops is literally from 2016 and runs Linux mint butter smooth).

So by promoting Linux, HP can sell a laptop with less ram and less storage, that doesn't run like shit. Saves them loads of money. They may not give a flying fuck about Linux. This still helps their bottom line.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

high-usage vendors like hp (and dell, lenovo previously reported on) have to start paying-in to support the operating costs of the service.

they certainly aren't doing it because they want to.

[–] baner@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

Greats news more support for Linux, Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad 2in1 and while I was on their website checking the warranty, I decided to see if there were BIOS drivers and there were. I tried using fwupd and it didn't find anything and when I searched found that this model does not have Linux support and I couldn't simply use the terminal, it was only possible from Windows, I had to download the .exe and Hiren's to update the firmware.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Whenever HP supports something, I'm left with the thought of 'cui bono' .

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