I worked IT for a community college. 8 - 4:30 Monday through Friday. If they'd asked me for any OT, my union president would eat nails and shit rust.
Retired now.
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I worked IT for a community college. 8 - 4:30 Monday through Friday. If they'd asked me for any OT, my union president would eat nails and shit rust.
Retired now.
Unionized IT.
0800-1647 , and it's generally firm; but we do take time to bottle and checkpoint our work if we didn't get to it before then. Normally it's 0800-1600 but the 0.47 hour is part of a 9x9 scheme where every second Friday is off because we already worked the hours for that pay-period.
OT needs a ticket and is charged out to the .1 hour. Standby has a shitty hourly rate, but at least there is one. They may not expect us to be sober/available otherwise.
Most corpo drones show up for those hours but very few of them work that long.
Where are you all located. I'm in Canada. I work 8-4 or 9-5 depending. I have flexibility to choose.
I do a “07:45 or so till 15:30 when I fall asleep at the desk until 16:30” recently.
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I'm at the office between 9 and 5
Drop a deuce at 10. Work gets done 10:30 to 12:30, take lunch, then fuck around pretending to work til 5
Where do you work and are they hiring?
damn thats awesome
Having done something similar it really fucking sucks. Even if you find a way to discreetly kill time, you can't shake the feeling that you're burning precious hours of your life for no reason.
I would much rather work a solid 6-7hr block at home knowing I can sign off when I'm done than spend 1 + 7 hours in cubicle hell.
software dev - I'm 8-5ish but the end is very flexible.
my morning is usually me waking myself up and remembering what I'm doing till 8:45, then we have a company wide and a dev team standup. then they let us loose to do what we need to do. if I run out of shit to do, I leave. sometimes I'm out by 3pm, but if there's plenty to do and my wife is working late I'm often there till 6.
so 9-5, no, but 8-4ish, which is still the same 8 hours I guess. I don't know any devs that start at 9am around here, 8 seems to be standard for some reason I can't fathom.
I used to as my company was fine with me being at lunch from 5-6. Some governments don't allow that (it's technically not legal in Japan), but some also look the other way (not my current company, sadly)
I attend a place of work from 0700 to 1600.
Do I work in that time?
Yeah, why not...
Software dev in Spain.
On paper it is 9:00 to 17:00, but we have flexibility to enter and leave.
In practice we do 9 hours Monday-Thursday and 6 on Friday.
8 hours + 30 min for lunch + 30 min to leave early on Friday.
I do 8:00 to 17:00 and 8:00 to 14:00.
This is not in all companies, my previous employer was like that, but I have friends on other companies for the same sector that do 9:00 to 18:00 every day, with one hour mandated for lunch.
Hostia, otro programador español! Cómo es el ambiente por tu zona? Yo justo creo que tengo uno de los 3 trabajos de programación de mi isla
No está mal, trabajo en VLC, no es Madrid o BCN pero tampoco es como otras regiones que al final o tiran de remoto 100% os se mudan a una de estas.
Kind-of. Researcher in EU, the funding source on paper mandates 7.6 hrs of work per day, so with lunch breaks it is almost exactly 09:00 - 17:00
Depending on whom you ask academia may or may not be considered a real job though... and my hours may be nice, but the folks who do experiments rarely get the 9-5 as stated on paper, and there are other aspects of the job that are much more fucked up
9-5 is a simple representation of an 8 hr work day. It’s not meant to be taken literally.
Ooooh fuck that. Not meant to be taken literally? Motherfucker, that was the standard in the 70's and 80's. Why tf you think Dolly Parton sang about "Workin 9-to-5" and not 9-to-5:30 or 9-to-6? Because that used to be normal working hours. Just another facet of workers rights that was quietly stolen from us.
In France it's more like 9 to 6 with one hour to eat, and no paid overtime. We're fucked.
I work for like 3 chosen hours per day. I often take naps
I work from 8:30 to 16:00 with a half-hour lunch break, so 7 work hours per day.
It's paid as a full-time job.
If I collect too much over-time, I get a stern talking-to from my supervisor, who could otherwise get in trouble with the works council and the owners (cause they'd get in trouble with the union and the law). So I make sure to go home on time.
I have 42 days of paid time off I HAVE to take, plus unlimited sick days.
I could have made 50% more by chosing a different employer, and 3-4x as much in the US.
But why the hell would I? I'm able to save up 1/3 of my take-home pay as it is, and that's after pension and healthcare are accounted for.
Wait wait, what type of country treats its citizens like humans?
Plenty do. Scandinavia being among the most cited examples.
I live in Germany, but that's not normal here, either. I deliberately chose an employer with a strong union and high worker solidarity and was lucky enough to switch jobs when my skills were in high demand.
I work 8:30 to 18:00 with a forced 1 hour break in-betweem
Not in the US, 38-40 hour weeks are realistic in eg. Germany.
From what I've heard 9-5 was a thing before employees were given a mandatory 1 hour lunch break which was counted as non-work time. So basically the work schedule was shifted to account for break time no longer being counted as part of the work day.
Of course I've never looked into it, so there's a good chance it's not that :p
You mean, before employers stole our paid lunch breaks and gaslit everyone into forgetting about them.
Yeah that :3
Lunch breaks, in the US, aren’t mandatory. Your state may require it but the US labor laws do not.
Found this out when Subway was making my 16 year old niece work 10 hour shifts with no lunch break.
Somehow this does not surprise me. Seems in line with everything else in the US
This is correct, lots of places that were 9 to 5 would give people a lunch half hour or a lunch hour that would technically be on the clock. When lunch hours became mandatory employers went well fuck that and made it so you didn’t get paid for your lunch. Most people don’t realize off the top of their heads but 8 to 5 is actually nine hours.
No. Companies have stolen 2 extra hours from us. They used to include a paid lunch hour in those 8 hours. Now, it's not only 8-5, but we don't get paid for the lunch hour.
I currently work 8:00 to 16:00 and no one has complained about my working hours yet. But, I'm a software dev working remote with coworkers in several different timezones, so the exact time I start and end my day really doesn't matter.
At a previous job I worked 9:00 - 15:00 for several months when I was depressed and no one complained about that either. 🤷
junior software developer in Europe, my work hours are 9-5, with an hour for lunch. In reality I work a bit shorter hours because the daily's at 10, and nobody really cares how many breaks I take as long as I get the work done
I work about 9:30 to something between 17:00 and 18:00
I usually cut out around 430
If I wanted to I could do 9h to 17h, but 8h45 to 16h45 fits better with my commute, so I go with that.
So this gets back to why I point to the 70's as sorta being the height of things. Both the song and the movie 9 to 5 was based around how poor shlubs had to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, with barely enough to get by on including you know going out every week. Anyway I am unsure if anyone does it now but I know as recently as the 90's if you worked for certain old school businesses like banking you could actually have a job that was 9 to 5 and you got a lunch that was compensated. Get this. It was often an hour. So you worked 7 hours a day and got paid for 8.
I believe in wresting back any amount of control/time we can from the system.
So my job has me coming in at 8:30-9:30am and leaving at 3:30pm every day, thanks to training my boss and working the system.
And honestly I am switching to a hybrid WFH job because even this is too much office time.
They don't give me a window, so I am letting myself get recruited elsewhere.
I'm contracted to do 7.3 hours per day, and when I started my manager let me choose what time I start. So I do 10:00 to 18:00 with a 0.7 hour lunch break.
So you take a 42 minute break?
Exactly! Though nobody counts work time that accurately here. So my actual hours are approximately what I stated, give or take 5 to 10 mins here and there.
Strict working hours are important for jobs like assembly line work where if you are not at your station nobody else can do any work. Often they do build enough slack in that they expect you can take a couple bites here and there between doing your work. Though this isn't the most sanitary so it isn't common anymore.
For anyone doing work that doesn't depend on others being at their station at the same time a strict shift doesn't make sense, and there are not many assembly lines left like that (the assembly lines I have seen lately are much shorter and your team of 10 needs to work the same shift but your team can choose lunch time, and if you get the team's work done faster everyone can even get an extended lunch.
All of my jobs have been 9-5, lunch included. I think the key is whether you’re paid hourly or by salary. I’ve almost exclusively worked at tech startups as a salaried employee.
I work 7:30 - 15:30. I hate waking up so early but it is nice to have time to run errands.
Yes, I work 9 to 5