Wanna know what's going on with those schools over on the tail they clipped for this chart
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I'm guessing whatever scale they're using bottoms out at -2.5 grade levels, meaning a -2.9, a -3, a -6 all get counted as -2.5 creating that bump on the low end
Yeah, that is what's happening on the chart, but it kind of means their arbitrarily chosen range from -2.5 to 2.5 was not the choice that the data would suggest.
yeah I want to know what's going on with them
Same


No Child Left Behind! Now they're all back there!
Can't leave anyone behind if the bus never came in the first place
Back in my day I had to play Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego with an 800 page world almanac. Actual paper! It taught me how to search, read, interpret mixes of data and learn about a world outside of burgerlandia.
Back in my day I was downloading Psiphon on a thumb drive to play flash games during class
Read Parable of the Sower.
This country is fucking cooked
Inshallah
"it's not the phones!" posters absolutely reeling.
I mean if it was the phones then this trend would be global. It's not. China has just as much phone usage as the West, but test scores and literacy in China is not in terminal decline by any measure.
I wonder what the tests are like. It’s easy to look up American school tests and even the ones for end of high school and university admission seem weirdly basic. I can’t find good examples of Chinese school tests though.
The gaokao is the Chinese standardized test, and it's widely regarded as one of the hardest in the world. If you search up gaokao sample questions you'll see a ton.
There are many science/math content creator on youtube who's entire video are just them solving middle school/high school STEM test questions from China/Singapore/Finland etc. if you want to look them up.
tests in east asia (including china) are overwhelmingly multiple choice (abcd), where as in the west students often have to write an answer. that's the biggest difference that i know.
but i haven't seen what a test looks like in the west in many years
Here's last year's mathematics gaokao
https://www.scribd.com/document/917948675/Gaokao-2025-Maths-Shanghai

oh shit, i couldn't understand any of those questions, much less answer them
The problems are not super hard. They’re pretty tough, but doable by a high school student who studied. We get a lot in high school. You generally forget most of it and retain just the general concepts.
Note: Where I’m from the average student is not expected to get all the answers on a test.
It’s basically:
- average student (attends classes, basically understands the material, but doesn’t do anything extra) gets 55-75%
- above average student (understands the material very well, read the book, did all the mandatory + optional homework ) gets 75-95%
- top student (went above and beyond, read extra books) gets 95-100%
And of course students who don’t understand the material get < 55%
This looks that type of test.
My gut instinct tells me that if you give me this test right now, I’d fail. If you gave me this test at the end of high school, I’d score a solid 80%.
Honestly that’s my bad. Shouldn’t have set the bar so high back in the day- didn’t know it’d make all the youths look bad. Was just trying to schoolmaxxx, not testmog.
Idiocracy
Would be funny but I think this is applying to the world in general
Why U.S. Test Scores Are in a 'Generation-Long Decline'
What makes you think that?
The data says its a western problem. Dont know about the rest of the world, but westerners cant read for shit.
I work with school students, I have noticed that kids these days are way too over reliant on AI and are not thinking own their own.