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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 78 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Honestly, this should be a ticket. Parked vehicle outside of a parking spot, obstructing traffic, etc.

"Well what else am I supposed to do?"

Use the truck parking spots.

"But they're far away/nonexistent"

Take a cab or otherwise figure it out.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 weeks ago

"What, do you expect society to accommodate your special needs vehicle? You some kind of woke commie?"

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 15 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly.

Just because your vehicle doesn't fit in parking bays doesn't mean you can just park anywhere you like.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

“Well what else am I supposed to do?”

Don't care, that is your problem. I have a similar response to people complaining about roads not being increased in size because cars are getting larger. The road was here first, you then decided to buy a larger car. Really it seems like a you problem.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

yeah, it's too big for the spot

simple

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I get piled on every time but no one needs a modern pickup. There is a more suitable vehicle for your needs if you are in trades, and a pickup isn't it. Need people space? Same deal.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

What do you suggest for the trades? A van?

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Or an older pickup with equivalent bed space and no weight wasted on a second row of passenger seats.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay how old? We talking pre 2008? Because anything before that are pigs on fuel, perform significantly worse, and lack of basic saftey features.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any numbers to attach to those claims?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Efficiency has improved over the decades despite the trucks getting larger: https://carbuzz.com/ford-improved-f-150-fuel-economy-five-decades/ you'll also see how the old inefficient engines had less power than the new more efficient ones.

Electronic Stability Program became mandatory in the US in 2012 and the EU in 2014. I've driven a '05 Grand Cherokee that didn't have it (or even traction control if I remember correctly), though German cars mostly started getting it in late 90s or early 00s. ESP can be an absolute godsend in the winter because unlike your right foot, it can control each wheel's brakes individually to prevent skids.

It's not just trucks, all vehicles have gotten safer and more efficient over time because of regulations that have forced manufacturers to adopt new technologies. I've never heard anyone question this before, as it's so widely known.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You have my thanks, for I did not have the energy for that!

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[–] notgold@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They still make single row ones. We have many at my workplace. Usually tradies that work for larger businesses or local governments use them. Smaller trade businesses generally the dual/super cab ones. They do have their uses but most people don't use them for that purpose.

Ranger XL single cab or Hilux single cab still around. The Holden Colorado was my favourite as someone that did a lot of long drives but that doesn't exist anymore.

At the end of the day, most people want to drive a bigger car because they feel safer when though the bigger vehicles are the problem.

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[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Yes, obviously, but they are already making pick up trucks that have a sealable bed. They also have pick ups that have a raised construction on the bed with a roof. Next step is a double door on the rear and they will just be vans again.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, that is what they all use here because its just better. A roof keeps your tools dry and if someone wants to steal it they need to break in rather than just grabbing it.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

D’uh. Vans are more lockable, there’s more space, you can just walk straight into them, they have much shorter hoods so that more of their length can be for storage than for just being long for the sake of it, and they are way more modifiable than people think. A work van is still body-on-frame so they’re perfectly capable towing vehicles to boot.

Trucks do one thing better, and that is having a bed that can be removed/taken up for more useful things like fifth-wheel hookups and towing rigs. I guess you can also maybe put a single haybale in there, but actual farmers who aren’t cosplaying don’t move their shit one bale at a time while pretending they’re Ford Tough(TM).

U-haul rents pickups but there’s a reason you never really see them. Why would I go through all that trouble and cost and not at least get the van?

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Even worse they COULD make trucks that do everything new trucks do without being so huge. Kei trucks would do most of what people use American trucks for.

Hell, American trucks used to do everything modern ones do at half the size.

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[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Not for long

These will be pretty rare in 10 years time if things continue the way they are. That said I’m in a country adopting EVs, so YMMV

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah, yes, because EVs can’t be made into giant ugly trucks

[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

gahh, every time I see a Hummer EV, I think people can't get stupider

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Me too.

And then I see a Cybertruck

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

10 years? The longer Operation Epstein Fury drags on, these guys will be struggling to gas up in months.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, they will get even heavier so you will never see a road without craters in it

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe tracked vehicles will come back into fashion. Finally a RAM TANK half-track.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah nah as time goes by it’ll go the other way. Batteries will get lighter as tech improves.

The argument going on about this reminds me of what my grandmother told me about the horse to car transition. Pretty much all the same stuff, including how big they were in comparison to a horse.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But people keep buying bigger cars. We are able to build small cars it's just that almost no one is buying them.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I suggest vehicle length and width limits for parking lots. Parking fines for those who exceed them, and make the fines bigger the more the vehicle exceeds it.

At least where I live, vehicle technical data is publicly available by license plate, so it'd be trivial to implement too. The Europark guys will literally stand around and wait for your parking clock to expire if you stay for 2 minutes too long, how about they do something more useful instead.

Either it'll make people reconsider driving these large beasts in the city, or the owners of the parking lots get extra revenue. Either way at least it'll cost the giant truck owners money.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, requiring a separate license for larger vehicles would probably be more effective. It's already pretty common to have separate licenses for different classes of vehicles.

Make it require a more rigorous driving test, and maybe more expensive too. We should probably also outlaw consumer vehicles with such shit visibility anyway, but that's a different issue.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I've had a ticket for not fully parking in the bay before, this should more than qualify

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] inari@piefed.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Antisocial behavior

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, even if we ignore how obscenely selfish and un-neighborly this guy is being, even if we assume he only cares about himself and his emotional support vehicle...shouldn't that make him worry about that truck getting hit by someone driving by? How many times is he going to lose his truck's bumper because he parks it with the nose sticking halfway through the travel lane?

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet that paint scratches easily

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Those tyres aren't flat either. I wonder how that can be rectified...

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[–] Francislewwis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At some point “bigger truck” just becomes “public infrastructure stress test with cupholders.”

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure that point already passed

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Time to make zig zag stiles for parking garages. Narrow turn opening in fence

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

No women has ever orgasmed in that family.

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

With gas prices, they're screwed...

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Diesel probably gets 1200km +- 200km per full tank approx 120L tank size. So 240$ cad for a full tank. It's still nothing compared to the new imports using turbo 4s and having to put in premium. Because of the NOx reduction legislation.

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

I absolutely hate these people parking in garages. I'm sorry but that shit is just absolutely unnecessary.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

This, but in traffic unsafely blocking my left line of sight so I can't safely do anything until they take their sweet time trying to go.

...At least during a turn I can "use" them as protected cover.

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