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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly, this should be a ticket. Parked vehicle outside of a parking spot, obstructing traffic, etc.

"Well what else am I supposed to do?"

Use the truck parking spots.

"But they're far away/nonexistent"

Take a cab or otherwise figure it out.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago

"What, do you expect society to accommodate your special needs vehicle? You some kind of woke commie?"

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 15 points 1 week ago

Exactly.

Just because your vehicle doesn't fit in parking bays doesn't mean you can just park anywhere you like.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

“Well what else am I supposed to do?”

Don't care, that is your problem. I have a similar response to people complaining about roads not being increased in size because cars are getting larger. The road was here first, you then decided to buy a larger car. Really it seems like a you problem.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

yeah, it's too big for the spot

simple

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I get piled on every time but no one needs a modern pickup. There is a more suitable vehicle for your needs if you are in trades, and a pickup isn't it. Need people space? Same deal.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What do you suggest for the trades? A van?

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

9/10 trades on site aren't hauling anything to the job.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Or an older pickup with equivalent bed space and no weight wasted on a second row of passenger seats.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay how old? We talking pre 2008? Because anything before that are pigs on fuel, perform significantly worse, and lack of basic saftey features.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have any numbers to attach to those claims?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Efficiency has improved over the decades despite the trucks getting larger: https://carbuzz.com/ford-improved-f-150-fuel-economy-five-decades/ you'll also see how the old inefficient engines had less power than the new more efficient ones.

Electronic Stability Program became mandatory in the US in 2012 and the EU in 2014. I've driven a '05 Grand Cherokee that didn't have it (or even traction control if I remember correctly), though German cars mostly started getting it in late 90s or early 00s. ESP can be an absolute godsend in the winter because unlike your right foot, it can control each wheel's brakes individually to prevent skids.

It's not just trucks, all vehicles have gotten safer and more efficient over time because of regulations that have forced manufacturers to adopt new technologies. I've never heard anyone question this before, as it's so widely known.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You have my thanks, for I did not have the energy for that!

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, that is what they all use here because its just better. A roof keeps your tools dry and if someone wants to steal it they need to break in rather than just grabbing it.

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[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yes, obviously, but they are already making pick up trucks that have a sealable bed. They also have pick ups that have a raised construction on the bed with a roof. Next step is a double door on the rear and they will just be vans again.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

D’uh. Vans are more lockable, there’s more space, you can just walk straight into them, they have much shorter hoods so that more of their length can be for storage than for just being long for the sake of it, and they are way more modifiable than people think. A work van is still body-on-frame so they’re perfectly capable towing vehicles to boot.

Trucks do one thing better, and that is having a bed that can be removed/taken up for more useful things like fifth-wheel hookups and towing rigs. I guess you can also maybe put a single haybale in there, but actual farmers who aren’t cosplaying don’t move their shit one bale at a time while pretending they’re Ford Tough(TM).

U-haul rents pickups but there’s a reason you never really see them. Why would I go through all that trouble and cost and not at least get the van?

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Even worse they COULD make trucks that do everything new trucks do without being so huge. Kei trucks would do most of what people use American trucks for.

Hell, American trucks used to do everything modern ones do at half the size.

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[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not for long

These will be pretty rare in 10 years time if things continue the way they are. That said I’m in a country adopting EVs, so YMMV

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel like that is happening because people were made aware of the energy security side of running your car on electricity rather than imported fuel

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they’re a major producer, plus the influence from the car lobby there is insane.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Also the tax incentives

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah, yes, because EVs can’t be made into giant ugly trucks

[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

gahh, every time I see a Hummer EV, I think people can't get stupider

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me too.

And then I see a Cybertruck

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

10 years? The longer Operation Epstein Fury drags on, these guys will be struggling to gas up in months.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, they will get even heavier so you will never see a road without craters in it

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe tracked vehicles will come back into fashion. Finally a RAM TANK half-track.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeah nah as time goes by it’ll go the other way. Batteries will get lighter as tech improves.

The argument going on about this reminds me of what my grandmother told me about the horse to car transition. Pretty much all the same stuff, including how big they were in comparison to a horse.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I suggest vehicle length and width limits for parking lots. Parking fines for those who exceed them, and make the fines bigger the more the vehicle exceeds it.

At least where I live, vehicle technical data is publicly available by license plate, so it'd be trivial to implement too. The Europark guys will literally stand around and wait for your parking clock to expire if you stay for 2 minutes too long, how about they do something more useful instead.

Either it'll make people reconsider driving these large beasts in the city, or the owners of the parking lots get extra revenue. Either way at least it'll cost the giant truck owners money.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, requiring a separate license for larger vehicles would probably be more effective. It's already pretty common to have separate licenses for different classes of vehicles.

Make it require a more rigorous driving test, and maybe more expensive too. We should probably also outlaw consumer vehicles with such shit visibility anyway, but that's a different issue.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I've had a ticket for not fully parking in the bay before, this should more than qualify

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] inari@piefed.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Antisocial behavior

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Honestly, even if we ignore how obscenely selfish and un-neighborly this guy is being, even if we assume he only cares about himself and his emotional support vehicle...shouldn't that make him worry about that truck getting hit by someone driving by? How many times is he going to lose his truck's bumper because he parks it with the nose sticking halfway through the travel lane?

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet that paint scratches easily

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those tyres aren't flat either. I wonder how that can be rectified...

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[–] Francislewwis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At some point “bigger truck” just becomes “public infrastructure stress test with cupholders.”

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure that point already passed

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Time to make zig zag stiles for parking garages. Narrow turn opening in fence

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

No women has ever orgasmed in that family.

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With gas prices, they're screwed...

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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

I absolutely hate these people parking in garages. I'm sorry but that shit is just absolutely unnecessary.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

This, but in traffic unsafely blocking my left line of sight so I can't safely do anything until they take their sweet time trying to go.

...At least during a turn I can "use" them as protected cover.

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