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My Toyota has an emergency beep and displays "Warning Roads may be icy." whenever the temp is below freezing. It never fails to startle me and take my eyes off the road.
This sound and warning pops up at a random time after you start driving in the winter. There is no way to disable it. You can disable the seatbelt warning.
I just rented a brand new Ford Explorer and tried on the lane assist and it's the stupidest thing, I would never waster money to pay extra for that "feature"
From what I can tell it doesn't have an actually sensor in the steering wheel to tell if your hands on on the wheel, so instead it judges that by the fact that there is "resistance" or "feedback" from you turning the wheel or slowing it from turning while adjusting to stay in the lane.
However, this means that when you hit a straight stretch of road, and have no need to adjust the wheel physically, it blares a "KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE WHEEL" warning at you until you move the wheel a little bit. So on a straight stretch of road you have to unnecessarily weave left and right a bit in order for the car to not get pissed at you.
If you don't and the car thinks you don't have your hands on the wheel it just turns the system off. So fuck you apparently, they'll let you weave off out of the lane on purpose if you're having a medical emergency and can't keep your hands on the wheel and relying on the lane assist to slow down safely.
I have such a system in my Corolla Cross, and I'd like to add that on top of all that - sometimes the system looses track of the lane and thus cannot follow it. Which is reasonable - it's only... nonhuman. What is not reasonable is that the only indication for that is a small indicator on the dashboard switching color from green to gray. That big-ass warning shouting at you? That's reserved for when you didn't play with the wheel for too long.
Mine tries to take exits on the freeway. It will follow the line on the right of the car and when there's an exit it pulls towards the exit even when I'm not wanting to go that way. Thanks Honda.
My car does this, but it's the same "bong" sound as when a warning light comes on -- it's not really distracting, but every time my heart sinks and I think, "what's wrong with the car now?"
My mom's Rav4 would do this, and they clearly forgot to think about shifting temperatures, something that surely doesn't happen when driving at 100kph?
It bongs and flashes the display every time the temperature goes under 5c. So if it's 4/5C out it'll keep bonging every time it switches between the two readings. I've had it happen multiple times within a couple minutes.
Also really annoying going in and out of tunnels in winter, of which there are a lot of here.
Thankfully the dealer was able to disable it, after it was a couple years old...
I have a 2023 Honda Passport, and when the Collision Assist Warning (or whatever the hell it's called) is active, when it thinks you should apply the brakes it flashes "BRAKE" in big red letters right in the middle of the dashboard. It's incredibly distracting, and almost guarantees I'll be looking at IT rather than whatever I should be braking for.
My favorite part of my honda accord is when I try to avoid an obstacle on the road and the lane keep assist system decides to take control of my steering wheel and jerk me in the obstacle's direction.
That's why I turn lane assist off, it kept jerking me back when taking exit ramps because the painted lines were inconsistent and it gave so many false positives.
If you use your turn signal it doesn't do that.
Guess mine was possessed and did it despite the turn signal.
Do you flick the turn signal? My Kia doesn't cause me any problems if I do it before actually turning in that direction
This is what I see in this post. I have not been driving tons of modern cars, but I did drive a dozen or so with this feature. Never had any issues with this.
Firstly - using blinker disables lane assist. Anyone mentioning "I use exit line and it doesn't let me" had outed themselves as BMW drivers/not using blinker when needed. "Avoiding debris" - yeah, sure... Keep distance, watch the road, glance at the mirrors to be aware of everything around you, and certainly do no speedup.
Secondly - this may vary to each brand/model but for the ones I drove it only just slightly makes it harder to leave the lane. Using bit more strength would still lead you to leave the lane. Kind of similar to a car without a power steering. Doubt that safety standards would let wheel lock you in the lane while changing lanes without a blinker.
Other than that, technically these features are nice-to-haves and are not a necessity. Not being able to turn them off is quite a PITA, I agree.
Ah yes, using the turn signal is the first thing I think of when avoiding road debris.
Correct: if you see an obstacle and have to do something, swerving without signals is dangerous. Braking is the first maneuver you think of, if you are out of time to decide.
And flicking a turn signal (if you do it every time you turn) takes milliseconds and comes naturally.
In any situation I find myself driving a car with that system, I always disable it before setting off. Several instances like that in my own experience just proved that it can never be trusted, even to just leave things alone when they need to be.
I now have a car with that system after having an old dumb car for the preceding 20+ yrs of driving, and I keep it off by default, and turn it on only when I know I’ll be slightly distracted for a few minutes.
It was just too difficult to get used to, and frankly it was so sensitive to where it was that just being near the edge of the road, where I like to ride to give other drivers as much space as possible because I don't trust them, set it off and it fought against me constantly, causing far more swerving than I’d otherwise do.. it’s also a giant asshole about country driving, where lane markers only apply when theres other cars around.
I could see it being useful for new drivers who never had to learn to do fully manual driving, though, the same way power steering was a useful change that was difficult to adjust to for those who learned without it.
Cars should have a universal "I'm the captain" button, that shuts off all automated & assist shit, and leaves it to the human. The amount of times I've rented a car and it's screaming at me every 30 seconds about something is just distracting and dangerous.
this is why I won't buy a newer car. it's so goddamn distracting and dangerous. not to mention pretty much all new cars have LED headlights and I'd rather not be a threat to everybody else on the road
Worse is auto LED headlight smart dimming. It tries to brighten on dark stretches and dim when it thinks there are oncoming cars. It will never let your eyes get accustomed to night driving. Too many reflective curve\turn signs like these...
And it will dim to its lowest legal setting thinking, "lots of cars!", leaving you to complete the datk curve with a, "oh sh🤬 did my headlight just burn out?!" feeling.
Jesus. From this thread, it sounds like driving a modern-made car means having an anxious back-seat driver that you can't kick out constantly trying to mess with your settings and telling you you're driving wrong.
It reminds me to take good care of my 10+ year old car...
Don't worry, it's all bullshit. Kia Ceen SW '22:
On the bright side it's usually easier to get them to quiet.
Honestly, I have no idea how this is acceptable these days, let alone legal.
"We'll set your car up with questionable tech to make you even less safe, and we'll charge you way more for it." /s
"And it enables us to remotely brick your vehicle to force you to buy a new one"
Yeah but an ebike almost hit me once /s
Well. Taking both hands off the steering wheel ain't no help either, Mr 18 Wheeler.
Relevant Hank Green video about this
Here I am getting annoyed that my Android Auto wouldn't automatically start, and instead I have to wait until module loads to click AA button on the screen. (I can hit it while driving) 2017 Peugeot if anyone is interested.
Fuck this shit, really. Who in the fuck needs a reminder that they need to drive safe. Who wants to see instructions on how to pair their phone with an app that is a paid subscription? That should be banned.
Was taking a carshare somewhere and, while driving on the highway, the car's massive digital monitor switched to some sort of notice like this that hid the map the driver was using, forcing them to figure out how to exit it and go back to the map he needed while he was driving. I always knew those screens were dumb, but I hadn't thought they were that dumb. They're a fucking menace.
I rented a car that would lock you out of the stereo controls while backing up. It would also auto-connect your phone and then start playing music at the last volume setting
the number of times I was backing up attentively only to have music start blaring mid-manoeuvre and startling me, forcing me to either hurry up so I could get the volume button back or stop so I could access it asap...
we eventually got used to it but damn the first few days we kept forgetting to turn it ALL the way down instead of just a reasonable level
such a fucking stupid design choice. fuck you, Chrysler
System Developer: We did our job boys, no legal penalties.
Same reason car manuals are terribly written
This is like "reverse Nokia". The then Nokia CEO rejected to adopt touchscreen technology because he thought "people like buttons". That was the start of Nokia's demise. Now, car companies took this lesson too zealously and replaced controls with touchscreen, but this completely compromises safety!
I miss my BlackBerry that had a touch screen and a physical keyboard. And it would have been great to have another smartphone platform out there; I wish they hadn't folded under the pressure from iphone and android. There's a pretty good chance I'd have gone for a less flashy Blackberry instead of a pixel to put grapheneOS on it, if Blackberry was still an option (and wasn't just an android platform when it was).
Chevy Volt:
YOU HAVE A NEW TEXT MESSAGE FROM 58931
(READ) (LISTEN) (DISMISS)
(READ) you cannot read this message while moving (DISMISS)
when WTF did you even offer it to me? We're just wasting dangerous clicks now!
Similar to Android Auto having a giant Search bar across the map page. You're not allowed to use it when driving, but it's always there in the way.
Weird, that must be some market-specific rules? I can search on Android Auto's Google Maps while my car is in motion in Sweden.
I don't usually do it, because I'm not an idiot, but it still lets me do it.
You're probably right about it being market dependent rules. I have always been annoyed by the search bar not only being useless to me, it pushes the "center" of the map to the right side of the screen, so the symbol indicating your position is never actually centered.
Also, the climate controls are now only accessible through the touchscreen. Buried under 3 levels of sub menus.
It won't be long before turn signals and windshield wipers are behind a sub menu
Cars should not have screens. Maybe a tiny one in the dash for error messages, but anything bigger than a matchbox should be illegal.