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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Just stop using random playlists of people and start playing albums. Works regardless of the platform, works on local and cloud stored music and makes you appreciate artists again.

And best of all, buy albums you listen to very often on Bandcamp

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Yet, when I want to sit down and actually listen to an album, the phone is often the most frustrating tool in my pocket. Between the constant pings from Slack and the AI-generated discovery feeds that keep trying to shove viral tracks down my throat

Bruh, what? Just have the songs locally like on your iPod; you don't have to stream, and it's easier to put on your phone than your iPod. And what do Slack notifs have to do with this? Just turn it on DnD or whatever. In what universe are Slack notifs distracting you less than your phone while you listen on your iPod? If you give that little of a shit about them, you can turn them off.

I can leave for a week-long trip with my iPod and not have to think about bringing a charger along.

??? But you're already bringing a phone that needs to remain charged?? Playing audio doesn't drain the battery that hard, and phone batteries nowadays get enough charge that even an absent-minded dipshit like myself barely has to worry about it.


This author is either nostalgia-baiting for clicks or an absolute moron. Using an iPod might be a fun novelty; absolutely the fuck is it not "the best way to enjoy music". You're carrying around a separate, fairly large device just for music that probably even has worse audio quality; that's so unnecessarily cumbersome if I just want to listen to music.

They're using a ClickWheel with, at most, 40 GB of storage. That's like ~~ten~~ twenty FLAC albums. Is what I would say, except: "Since I replaced the original spinning hard drive with a microSD adapter, there are no moving parts and significantly less power draw. I am currently running 512GB of storage paired with a significantly larger battery that lasts weeks, not hours."

So they wait well into the article to tell the audience that they hardmodded their old iPod and that's why it's actually viable. What the actual fuck. Basically nobody is going to do that. Even with that hardmodding, the literal only advantage they have here, then, is the ClickWheel – because again, your phone should be charged and always on you in 2026. The ClickWheel is not that special to warrant hardmodding a 2006 iPod and using it separately for music.

Then they have a gargantuan segment whining about streaming as though local storage just doesn't exist on their phone. It's literally a non-issue. Right now I'm listening to a FLAC album I got off Bandcamp months ago. On my phone. Because I don't use streaming services. On my phone.

This piece of shit article could've been boiled down to "the haptic feedback on the ClickWheel was cool we should bring that back lol".

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's Nostalgia bait. I don't know why this is suddenly a new trend online. Like the articles recently that for whatever reason are about how great Zip disks were. no...they weren't. no...you weren't there.

Next thing you know there's going to be articles about how great a 28.8 dial modem was or digital cameras that used floppy disks were peak for storage. No Julia, they weren't.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

I had a Zip drive with a 386 and it was really good for backups. 100 MB instead of 1.44 MB! But it was painful to setup and slow as hell. It was only good for serious companies or pirates I guess.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You’re not considering the iPod DAC which is higher quality than most cellphone DACs. Also, thinking 40GB fits 10 FLAC albums is stupid. This isn’t correct even for uncompressed WAV files.

I can’t imagine putting this much effort into complaining about someone using their media player of choice. People like vinyl and even cassettes because they’re a different experience, do you write up paragraphs about that too?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Also, thinking 40GB fits 10 FLAC albums is stupid.

Sorry, you're right; it's more like around 20 of mine.

I can’t imagine putting this much effort into complaining about someone using their media player of choice.

I'm not complaining about their media player of choice; I'm remarking that the way they chose to discuss it in this article – especially being so focused on streaming – is stupid as fuck. Like 50% of this article is spent bitching about non-issues with phones. I don't even mean "non-issues" in the sense that they don't annoy me personally; I mean "non-issues" in the sense that this devolves into a comparison not of iPod versus smartphone but of iPod versus streaming, or that they're talking about it being so convenient not to have to worry about charging a second device. They can enjoy what they want to; the reasons they describe are, for the most part, asinine.

You’re not considering the iPod DAC which is higher quality than most cellphone DACs.

The author of this article certainly did consider DACs: [Modern smartphones have] got [...] a DAC chip that is by all measures transparent, near-lossless wireless streaming [...]" and that's the last they mention of the DAC, so they clearly don't give a shit about the Wolfson.

The fact they chose to wait until the middle of the article to say "yeah btw this thing is hardmodded for the battery and the storage" is so telling. That'd be the first thing I'd mention about a technological comparison.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Ain't no way your FLAC albums are larger than uncompressed WAV. The only >2GB FLAC albums I have are massive compilations with 50+ tracks. They're smaller than WAV, and that's at max 700MB per CD. Spot checking, it looks like most of mine are ~500MB per album.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

40GB is over 50 uncompressed CDs. Where are you getting your FLACs?

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I recently got into vinyl, and what I found was that convenience is antithetical to my music listening experience. The less I have to think about the process of turning on music, the less I think about the music at all, leaving me without any real memories about it. The more deliberate I have to be about my music, the better.

Like, yeah, I can listen to a full album on a streaming site, but I don't. It just doesn't happen, and I can't get myself to change, so I change the medium instead. Might not be the solution for everyone, but I can understand how having a dedicated box for music on the go would be preferable, not just in spite of the inconvenience, but because of it.

[–] Sisyphe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This fits my experience as well. Lately I've been listening to music as a main activity, not as background noise. I use my laptop, an external DAC and a pair or nice open back headphones. The whole setup keeps me tied to my couch, I can't go wandering around and doing other stuff, I don't keep my phone in reach, I just lay and listen. I'd say good music deserves the foreground.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

This author is either nostalgia-baiting for clicks or an absolute moron.

Correct

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same answer. You now have 2 devices, 2 batteries to charge, twice the volume in your pocket. iPod = Android + VLC. Nostalgia is stupid sometimes.

I compress everything from FLAC to Opus, and I have way more content than an iPod. Also the iPod cannot read the Opus format unless you're prepared to install an alternative OS.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Between the constant pings from Slack and the AI-generated discovery feeds that keep trying to shove viral tracks down my throat, the simple act of listening has become a chore

Ya know what would make way more sense? Learning to manage the notifications on your phone. Not just while listening to music but, like, always.

If you don't need Slack notifs, put them on silent. And I can't imagine any reason you would need any notifications at all from Spotify, so just turn them off altogether.

[–] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I agree though many people have on-call work positions and turning off notifications is a risk to their job security

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that ignoring them to listen on an iPod is any better.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It’s not necessarily that. It’s more like, if I configure my phone to silence notifications for an hour on the weekend, there’s a chance either through my own fuckup or the settings being so complicated that come Monday morning I will miss something from work.

I don’t know why people are losing their minds over the concept that someone might want to get away from their phone for a while.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

You can configure it to allow thos notifications

[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Right? "Android authority" but hasnt fine tuned their notifications to not interrupt their music?

[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Okay. I read a bit of the article. By a bit I mean I made it to the part where the iPod HDD and battery have been modded. This dude is leaving out half his side of the story.

You need to get MP3s for the iPod. Did the dude even try to put those same MP3s on their phone? Who knows. They spent a lot whinging about streaming apps and their enshittification, really funny. Local music apps are set up and forget affairs, I use Retro Music from F-Droid - zero enshittification, no subscription fees, and that version is free. The author can use it too.

I'm certainly no iPod modder, but I'm pretty sure you needed to install iTunes to get it to play literally anything. Android lets me play whatever from the SD card root, phone memory root, Download folder, or even if it's lost in my screenshot gallery for an absurd example.

Heck, you can't watch videos unless they're encoded/converted in a way that the Pod can play them. Any modern phone can play anything with the system video app or VLC or something.

Not a concern to me at all, but the pod doesn't have Bluetooth, so you're practically required to use something with the 3.5mm jack. A decent phone should have both.

If you don't want to receive a LinkedIn notification, turn off LinkedIn notifications. Android's notification system has matured tremendously, no app will send anything unless YOU have allowed it in the first place. Or turn on Do Not Disturb, which the author says they did, but I don't believe them. Bedtime Mode is an even stronger option, as it can hide your notifications. For the nuclear option, just turn off WiFi/mobile data - of course streaming apps will be unable to do anything in this case, but...... Local music players will keep trucking on.

TL;DR Just download and use a LOCAL music player you're comfy with and play the MP3s you already put on your iPod.

The iPod isn't something you're gonna hold constantly in your hands, like a classic handheld console where you can argue that you prefer playing GBA, PSP or Vita games on their original hardware, screen, buttons and all. You will most likely pocket it and only interact with it using your wired earphones. Your phone is still the best option here.

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What you're saying is so important to say out loud, because I don't know if it's easy or even in some cases, possible, for average Joe to find that information.

I do think that the whole rebellion from enshitification, is valuable in whatever format, so the whole crowd going for old tech, because they don't know how to use new avenues, other than the ones they're familiar with, still achieves the same task.

I don't have a lot of time to deep dive, I don't have a lot of expertise, those muscles have become flabby from no use for so many years, I used to download my music, then had Spotify for so long, then qobuz because Spotify turned evil, but I genuinely tried to download music again and I couldn't figure it out. I just feel like, I wish there were more tutorials on how to do the things you talk about. (If anyone knows any, I'd be so grateful for the help). I feel like theres not a lot out there? I see this so often, Lemmy has some amazing talents and minds, who know all this stuff, but talk about it like it's common knowledge. It's not. You guys are magicians. I just wish I knew how to do all your tricks.

[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

It only sounds like magic because all of you succeeded at speedrunning "you will own nothing and you'll be happy" into coming true, music, videos, games, books and even OSes (reminder for keepandroidopen.org). But it's not magic. If you can download cat photos and memes, you can save and play MP3s. I've taken this feature for granted, and so can you.

Bandcamp lets you download music in several formats. I think Apple Music and Amazon are still viable for MP3s (but eugh supporting US oligarchs, Bandcamp is also US). Some people graciously offer MP3s on SoundCloud. When all else fails, use NewPipe or an app to convert YouTube videos into local MP3 files - in fact you may find links to buy and/or free download music albums in the description. Nothing about this is magic, and shouldn't be.

The author is unnecessarily making the rebellion against enshittification harder, and neglecting to mention you can start now with current hardware to achieve the same desired results. You don't need an iPod.

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[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Congrats, I use a DAP instead so im not stuck in 2005 with a 5lb brick

My DAP takes microsd cards so I have 1tb of storage in there, it weighs like 100g and it doubles as a DAC for my pc

It also has physical buttons that I can press without taking it out of my pocket

[–] jasonthedragon442@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you recommend it specifically?

[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh sure, im using a FIIO jm21 with a pair of wired IEMs called Salnotes 7hz zero

The DAP (and 1tb microsd) were expensive, especially since the jm21 was just released, but the IEMs were $35 CAD because im listening a lot at work and the headphones are likely to get wrecked.

That said the audio quality is still great

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can also recommend the JM21. I just wish the battery life was better.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Apple products are great. The Apple ecosystem is not. If you like FOSS, you're going to have a bad time.

Putting music on my iPhone sucks because iTunes won't recognize or transfer .FLAC format. File sharing on iPhone is really inconstant and buggy. And I need a whole 3rd party app to get the data moved. Or I can upload things to iCloud 5GB at a time.

[–] Sisyphe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only Apple product I ever had was a 5th gen iPod. I remember having to "sync" it to my iTunes library. The concept of syncing was alien to me at the time, it seemed unnecessarily complicated (and it was!). Of course, I didn't put up with that crap for long so I installed Rockbox on it. That let me copy files directly. It supported .flac and a whole lot of other formats and it ran DOOM and a Gameboy emulator.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I remember hating the syncing. Just fucking let me select the files and drag it over! Then every software company decided that they needed to idiot proof every fucking thing to the same extent over the next 20 years. I fucking hate Apple's devs for that.

[–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I use LocalSend to transfer the files and play them on the iPhone with VLC. Only issue I have is the iOS file browser doesn't like filenames or folders with special characters like é or ö.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I have gigabytes of music on my phone and just keep it all locally and use VLC. Problem solved.

Since I don't have Google or Google Play services and only use open-source apps, I get very few notifications. And those I do get, I actually care about.

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The iPod was revolutionary, sure. But I wouldn’t go back to it. I selfhost my music and I’m happy with that.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I couldn't imagine. What a pain in the ass. I run my own server and stream my own music, so having to copy to an ipod would suck. It always sucked. Can you just copy files over with linux? syncthing? anything convenient?

Hard pass. Your own server is streaming all your music to all your devices.

[–] yopyop@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But you know, for others dealing with a server IS a pain in the ass. Copying audio files and making some updates from time to time is way simpler for other people.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I see someone is late to the nostalgia-bait articles party... You know that dedicated music players are still a thing now? You don't have to always use a fucking iPod.

I do like iPods mind you but there are better modern alternatives if you want a daily driver.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago

this individual needs to download foobar2000 and learn to manage his notifications. rather than writing superfluous articles about his inability to operate his own device.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll stick with streaming from my Plex server/Plexamp. However, if you're going to go local just grab a super cheap usb MP3 player and just copy the music to it. No need for iTunes. Simple and quick.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bluetooth-Extension-Multifunctional-Inlcuding-Earphones/dp/B0DHRPF4X6

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[–] pryre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting, but I'd have to say that I've been contempt just using an app that doesn't suck (musicolet). The comments about battery could hold a point to me if I were going on a week long trip, or something of the like, but anywhere that would happen for me is somewhere that I wouldn't be taking music/phone for distractions anyway.

I think the finer point I agree with is being able to just have a copy of your own music and play it without being belt-fed opinions or ads. Managing it is always a bit of a pain, but I've got a system that works for me, and MTP on android works better than trying to deal with iTunes in my books.

[–] vext01@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Musicolet is great. Just dont like how it handles external playlists.

Inuse syncthing to sync music from my NAS to the SD card on my phone.

[–] pryre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Pretty much the same setup. I don't really use playlists often though, and currently using syncthing to a NAS.

[–] bruzzard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Use a retired phone with no apps other than your music and the players (New Pipe, Archive Tune, etc) you want. Give your old phones a 2nd life without having to purchase another thing. Connect via WiFi and have a ball.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

For camping out of signal range or Halloween I still rock a SanDisk sansa with a rockbox rom.

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