Can't fault their logic tbf
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Unless they are going to talk about nuclear cooked turkeys, he could just set up a burner VM and communicate through that and a vpn. That's what I do when going to sketchy sites.
My poor family has to reach me on Briar.
Just stick to XMPP for encrypted coms. It's the original WhatsApp ( same Protocol before it was centralised and owned by world gov.)
ou can run your own server too.
You may even transfer and generate phone numbers paid with Monero on some clients.
AMA
I live in the Netherlands so everyone uses Whatsapp. Which is worse than just SMS, even if it's less secure. Giving your data willingly to the Zuck is beyond stupid. I setup Whatsapp Business to send an autoreply that says that I'm on Signal if they want to contact me. Almost no one switches over and they just send me a SMS message. To be honest I don't care, I'm just glad that I'm not part of many family group chats anymore.
Signal? Lmao like i was gonna trust anything from america
Like i told my mum if you're not sending me gpg-encrypted messages on a bunch of rotating IRC dead drop, we're not talking
Imagine planning Thanksgiving without proper opsec 🙄🤦♂️
dear god, the ruskies are gonna know about the thanksgiving plans.
I'm with granny here.
I think that's the joke 🤣
dafuq, I do not know any of these apps
Granny did the risk assessment and decided that ease of use and low-maintenance is more important than security when it comes to everyday family matters.
Not everyone ends in jail when they fuck up their opsec. Granny doesn't run an online cocaine business.
Granny is smart enough to get grandson to be doing the leg work and never share a signal chat with him.
Granny doesn't run an online cocaine business.
... or does she ?
She actually does, but cares about opsec there, so word hasn't gotten out that it's her.
Ease of use and low maintenance just means inertia. I remember back when people wrote Tech articles saying that Windows XP was intuitive as an argument against Linux but it turns out that intuitive only ever meant it works exactly like Windows xp. Then people got smartphones and using a second type of computer interface turned out to be no big deal. And now Linux market share is growing rapidly, something we were told was never going to happen because of all sorts of reasons that apparently don't apply.
Tbf linux has gone a long way to remove lot of the inertia. Also, with LLMs, its so much easier to use and learn Linux. Instead of chasing a problem for an hour on old forums you can get direct explanation and an answer in a minute.
How about everyone text and CALL Gam Gam.
I was talking about something similar the other day, about people who "don't read sms", and I absolutely don't get it. This (Gam Gam) is the same: how the fuck do you manage to use Whatsapp, or any other messaging app, and not another? They're essentially the same! Apart from not having the old chat history, there's no difference! It's just mental laziness, IMO.
You're speaking like someone who doesn't have elderly relatives...
The brain's ability to adapt decreases with age, to the point where it becomes very difficult to teach an elderly person anything new, and eventually even for them to remember or be shown how to do the things they've done for years but have now forgotten. It's very frustrating for everyone involved, and expecting them to adapt is expecting them to do something they simply can not do.
There's dementia and then there's a lifetime of intellectual laziness and incuriousness. My great grandfather and his brother lived into their 90s and coped with the changing world just fine. My grandparents are getting up there and they're still sharp-witted and active and aren't afraid of new technology. Many people aren't lucky and lose their faculties through no fault of their own but complacency is like giving up on your future.
Okay, how does this explain the Boomers and up who seem to only be capable of using Facebook?
Like, if it's about adaptation, they had email and SMS long before Meta started their "clean" version of MySpace that has gotten so much worse than what it replaced.
I'm stuck with a yearly Christmas card from a lot of older relatives because they can't manage to step back an use services they did use before the big tech algorithmic fuckery took over.
They sunk their time and effort into something that offered intuitive ease of use and photos they wanted beyond occasional messages. To just sit on an iPad and tap it like a rat hitting the feeder bar in a laboratory takes very little additional effort to learn. Scroll until you dopamine centers light up, tap for more, tap all red notifications. It's easier than using email or WhatsApp or Signal because they're using it like a steam of consciousness.
If you ask Granny on FB to fine a direct message from a month ago, it's possible that's too challenging a task because it's not right there.
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Would be better if Signal hadn't removed fucking SMS from their app
They saw the writing on the wall. Their announcement came shortly after Google decided to close their messaging RCS framework to any third party messengers. If the Google platform is trying to kick everyone out of standardized communication, why bother trying anymore?
Except no because that provides a false sense of security to people who don't understand how SMS works. Either you care about privacy or you dont. If you take privacy seriously you should't use sms perioid.
I've seen it convincingly argued that an end-to-end encrypted chat app should not have the option for non-encrypted messaging so that you can't even accidentally compromise security.
The entire point of signal is that its E2E without much thinking
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The guy kinda sounds like a douche..
just using the word opsec with your mom when you aren't a family of International spies is super cringe, imo
No, Gam Gam must adapt.
She can have somebody help install a new app on her phone if she needs help. Sorry but statistically you probably voted to create the society that made this necessary, even if they were a Democrat they still probably voted in the primaries for corporate politicians who also push surveillance. It's basic cause and effect
I can't tell if you're missing the joke or if I'm missing it right now. I'm Australian btw, so statistically, I voted in an Australian election.
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Whenever people start talking about "opsec" and it's not people doing sensitive work I'm just like "what ops?"
The op of trying to not get your entire family's conversations sold to the lowest bidder to be exploited for scams, insurance price gouging, "dynamic pricing", etc... I guess.
It is important for regular people to protect their privacy so that those at risk are among good company. Otherwise, anyone trying to maintain privacy is obvious and suspicious.
Browsing lemmy is my op
Operation: Thanksgiving with Gam Gam
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