gun control in the US is inevitably going to be gun control for everyone except cis het nazi-aligned white boys. which means we'll still get the same number of school shootings, but there will be fewer guns out there in general?
this post was submitted on 01 May 2026
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Weapon distribution is in hands of capital, it will always be the case that right extremist group have more and more advanced weapons as long as they’re supported by capital. I’m not against guns in general but this spiral towards more and more violent weapons mostly hurts working class people who get labelled as collateral damage.
I'm not arguing against gun control, I just reckon that it'll be applied unequally along racial lines because America is like that. Could be different, but we didn't defund the police yet.
At the same time, it's my experience that stricter gun control limits the ability of working class people to own guns at all more than anyone else. People up thread are talking about getting guns for safety if they can, you literally cannot here. It is wholly illegal to buy a gun for your safety, unless you are a pig or rent-a-pig. The rules are pretty strict and as a result our gun culture is basically gone (probably not a bad thing as this also massively reduced firearm violence, and violence overall, even for minorities not having a gun to defend yourself in a country with very few firearms appears to be far safer than having one in a country with them, but there are obviously other considerations). So though minorities have far more limited de facto gun rights than the majority in the USA, places with strict gun control leaves workers and minorities with far fewer again. I don't even know anyone with a gun - my brother and dad both did, but the licensing costs were just not tenable for something they got limited use out of. The price of a black market AR is comparable to a decent new car - not even the cheapest ones! - and legal ones are strictly disallowed for citizens, as are all centre fire semi auto rifles. Handguns basically cannot be owned by civilians except as part of a target shooting club and I believe are kept at the club, there's absolutely no tolerance for carrying it with you or keeping it - or any firearm - in such a way that it would be useful for self defense.
I think there’s different types of gun control, making it more costly or difficult to own a gun in general is obviously bad for us. But restrictions on what types of guns are allowed is important imo and the US is way too lax on that. Also obviously a huge problem is the amount of weapons that can be used for mass killings that are being and have been produced in the US.
those are called cops, do keep up with times
a lot of crackers who aren't cops are nazis, don't act like it isn't 😒
seems cops are wildly more successful than nazis, they can murk 1000 people a year without a squeak
I'm lost lol
I'm not arguing against gun control, I just reckon that it'll be applied unequally along racial lines because America is like that. Could be different, but we didn't defund the police yet.
no, i think people overpay attention to hypothetical armed nazis. historical applied brownshirt function was to crush unruly masses at factories, they got cops for that nowadays. why would capital care about some rightwing radicals not to crush them or absorb them (into ice)
I thought we were talking about school shooters 🤔 which are mostly white and tend to be radicalized by far right online stuff on top of their other issues.
Gun violence is part of a strategy of tension, meant to inure the public to mass death and occupation.
The point of not having gun control is so they can convince parents to let them put drones in schools.
hey boss, what if we gave that weird hacker kid a way to shoot up the school without even obtaining a gun?
Can't wait until the Israeli drone AI identifies every student as a terrorist
I was about to date myself by making a joke about a drone mistaking a scantron test sheet for a keffiyeh and I bet the kids don’t even use scantron anymore
I hear scantron is making a comeback with the AI cheating epidemic as you can’t just have ChatGPT do it for you.
Yeah, just use the ditto machine instead
*sniff*
The killbots will protect and nurture our children, and in turn our children will come to love the killbots. As they should.
"The clustering of all these military-aged males presents a target rich environment for our security solution system." - a cool senior vice president of institutional sales
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
AC-130 gunship over every school just in case
So bombing schools in the middle east is a trial run for stopping school shootings in the US?
I remember joking like 10-15 years ago about how we needed predator drones patrolling schools that would fire tomahawk missiles at anyone that looked like they might be angry / upset.
hear me out remote control gun robots on all schools
Hitting the school shooter with an FPV drone 
Accidentally blowing up the kindergarten instead 
Fuck gun control
idk about you but I'm against white kids having guns, they do the school shootings
Ok reasonable
That's crakkker control
I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”
Charlie agrees!
Let me rephrase that: fuck this racist capitalist country enforcing gun control
Amerikkkans have had more guns than people for years and what have they done with them?
Charlie's quote is still accurate. Arguing against gun control in the hopes that they will eventually be used for revolution is arguing that school shootings are the cost for a future potential maybe revolution.
I don't live in the US but do you really think the US government would enforce gun control out of care and love for the people?
The way I see it they only do it to disarm oppressed people, while the real issues that cause gun violence (systemic inequality, racism, culture war) will remain untouched
Australia didn't enforce gun control out of "care and love for the people", they enforced it because they value national stability and Not Being Shot. Capitalists are not immune to bullets, as the US are kinda learning the hard way, and it doesn't benefit the bourgeoisie when their workers' kids get massacred at school.
Gun control without addressing the core issues that cause violence is not a lasting solution, but it is what sane nations do to reduce needless deaths, regardless of how malicious or benevolent their intentions are. The US is just not a sane nation.
I guess so... I just don't see how gun control stops a student who has already made up their mind
My university went on strike after a student stabbed another to death. The entire school could hear his girlfriend's screams echoing
It's a lot harder to go on a killing spree with a knife than with a gun. Again, the root cause of the violence isn't solved, but having access to firearms makes it easier to follow through on violent intentions.
Same goes for suicide. Gun control would most likely reduce suicides by 10k or more each year. Guns make suicide alot easier.
Shootings are easier and thus happen far more often and with more victims. This really isn't debatable.
the availability of guns is one of the only things ameriKKKan proletarian movements have going for them. of course there are a billion more important things but we don't have any of those. it just doesn't make sense to push to get rid of the one thing we do have. of course, this is all gonna be a moot point when after the third luigi they do gun control anyway. but in the meantime, armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Fr. Fuck Abigail SSpanberg for this virginia gun ban
Ooh a potential gun struggle session. The 2nd amendment is liberal horseshit. Gun rights don't exist in the USA already for minorities.
The most salient communist quote on guns is not "under no pretext" which honestly US radlibs focused on as a substitute "under no pretext", but "political power comes from the barrel of a gun".
So yeah sure a socialist should consider buying a gun for their safety if circumstances require and permit, no debate there, and a revolutionary movement does eventually need guns.
But it's also not a contradiction to think things that things that disarm chuds, petit bourgeois, cops, or even the state itself (intentionally or through austerity) is cool and good.
But it's also not a contradiction to think things that things that disarm chuds, petit bourgeois, cops, or even the state itself (intentionally or through austerity) is cool and good.
sure but those things are never going to happen in America, so what's the point in wasting time discussing this?
It is pointless to argue about since it is never going to happen. We are more likely to have a mass movement revolution than an iota of actual gun control legislation.
I'm not advocating for attempt gun control on the USA, just we've had a bunch of huge pointless struggle session on it which is I agree with @InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net is a waste of time.
Yet we persist.
The school safety industry is like an overfunded make work program for people who couldn't cut it as a even a cop.
"They say the next ones will be piloted by teachers!" 
"Really makes you feel you're a part of history!"
I think all countries should abolish gun control so that the proletariat can rise up and overthrow their capitalist masters, like in the famous example of the USA