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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 9 months ago

how is my being able to cast as single vote suppose to stop this nonsense?

im not not gunna vote. but dont tell me my vote really matters when apparently all my vote gets to decide is 'conservative' or 'fascist'. as this shit happens anyway.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It really feels like we’ve lost complete control of the government, and they’re just gonna do what they want. Warrantless spying, supporting genocide, baking the planet to a cinder; all things I’d stop if I could, but it’s being done in my name and I’m powerless because all I can do is vote for someone who will end up doing those things or someone worse.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Voters have never had control of the government, it's always been the wealthy and capital

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

They know the end of capitalism is coming and our society is about to crumble. They want to stop us from getting together and rebelling on the wealthy.

Watch as right wing fanciest groups like Proud boys and Patriot Front go unopposed. But left leaning groups and unions get squashed.

We are close to needing to rise up and take our country back before it to late. Probably is to late.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

FISA reauthorization, happens all the time.

Although, if it did any good you'd think maybe they'd have something to show for it?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

It's not admissible in court, is it? Maybe that's why they have nothing to show for it? Obviously, that makes it pretty useless.

[-] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Parallel construction is their trick and is totally cool and fully legal according to our courts. We have no rights, only temporary freedoms.

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Useless for justice, but if there was no purpose it wouldnt keep getting renewed. Information is power even if its never used.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That's a fun thought experiment. One way I think this could work is you find out someone is doing something illegal, so you have someone call in an "anonymous tip" which you use to get a search warrant, find what you already know is there, and then it's fully "legal"

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Great. Another reason why direct voting is a bad thing.

Oh wait...

[-] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

When the preferences of economic elites and the stands of organized interest groups are controlled for, the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.

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