He doesn’t need the DNC. To be honest. He’s probably better off.
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The older I get, the more I believe that some democracies are nothing but uniparty rule dressed up as choice. Japan is one example. The US is another.
Jon carries a lot of water for the idea that the Democratic Party leadership are inept.
They are not. They accomplish every task they set out to.
The problem is that they don’t want the same things the voters in the party want.
They don’t want to “win”. The only thing they want is to maintain their proximity to wealth and power, and so they have cast their lot with the oligarchy, the same as Republicans.
The Democratic Party ”runs cover” (“block tackle” for you Europeans) for the Republicans while the Republicans overtly dismantle democracy. There is always a parliamentarian or a “blue slip rule” to help the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory. How many times do they need to strain credulity and invent some new excuse or mechanism for their failure for it to form a composite image of collaboration?
The Democratic Party is a honeypot used to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and prevent the “Overton Window” of American politics from moving left.
At every crucial moment they have supported the privatization and financialization of the commons, the wars of aggression, the surveillance & police state, and they will continue to do so until Palantir storm troopers are dragging people from their Blackrock housing to Amazon work camps to fulfill their mandated techno feudal district conscription period.
Thank you! Like why are we acting like what's happening in the Middle East isn't chuck schumers lifelong wet dream in action??
If either party paid attention to their voters we would have had an election of Bernie Sanders vs Ron Paul years ago, but both of them have their chosen one, and the only time we've seen a massive pushback against that has been the time the alternative was actually worse.
Thank you. I'm tired of people thinking the neo-liberals of the Democrats are their friends. They point toward the few pieces of legislation they pass that's positive when they ignore all the needed legislation they never even give lip service to. In all the time since its inception payments for disabilities and similar have not risen to meet inflation, the amount they can keep in a bank account hasn't changed since like the 1970s. There's SO much wrong that the Dems could platform on and spend so much time doing if they win but they don't want to.
I think you're wrong. Or rather, I think you're mostly wrong.
Like, in no way do I think they are extremely good at what they do, unless your argument is that they don't give a shit, which I also think is wrong. They definitely want to win. They definitely want to control things. They literally make more money (not the organization, mind you, the people who run the organization) when they are in control. It is silly to think otherwise. Heck, it is safer, too!
But, I think they are quite dumb, or maybe it's better to think of them as out of touch. They rely on political calculus, but they're using some pretty bad variables. Because otherwise, there wouldn't be any progressive Democrats at all. Like, that is inherently detrimental to their centrism. Giving crumbs isn't as useful to them as people say because it let's others know how hungry they are for more of that. Hope is contagious.
I think they work with what they got, and what they got is so rapidly changing that they freak out and pick what they think is the safest option over and over again. And their base hates it, but they'll deal with that part later, there's just too many fires for them!
Like, sure, there's a little bit of trying to control how progressive they can be, but they just... Suck at that, too. I dunno, man. A lot of people can skate by on incompetency, and that just feels more likely.
If they wanted to win they would release the 2024 election autopsy. Instead they buried it. Yes, they dont mind winning elections but they absolutely would rather lose than allow progressives in power. They just buried the election autopsy a week ago and now everyone forgot about it. Same thing trump relies on to stay in power.
Sometimes I wonder if they don't have a monthly secret meeting where they look at which issues appear to be up and coming and then flip a coin for which party takes which side of it. Kinda like debate club.
It often looks more like performance art. The dems pretend to take one side of an issue, and then rally their base about how the GOP want to stop the solution or tear down current protections. And of course the GOP takes the other side and rallys their base against what the "lunatic" dems want to do (which of course the dems would never do because then the issue would be gone), and they start proposing ways to tear down whatever law already favor the democrats side.
When the dems get in power, somehow very few of the things they proposed before actually happen. And the ones that do are so soft an executive order can undo them.
It's just a shell game. Perception manipulation.
What's a Zilch?
Zilch means zero, nothing.
I see. Thank you
Zip, nada, nill, zippo, diddly squat
Bupkis, da nada, infintisimo, goose egg
I'm not an american, but it seems like the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.
There's this vibe of self-destruction in american society that is rooted in the 2 party system: one party is your mortal enemy and another doesn't quite represent you - so everyone just low key feels like destroying the whole thing rather than working on making it better.
Yeah i used to say this as a kid, why is the government spending any money at all on primaries, and then why do they only spend money on two parties. To my prepubescent eyes, it was clearly the government rigging elections. But all the adults told me that I didn't understand.
Now 30 years later it's plain as day that it was always a problem, and now we have a chomo-in-chief blowing up fishermen halfway around the world and people still don't see the problem with the two party system.
Money In Politics
Two Party System
Gerrymandering
Electoral College
The four horsemen of a Democratic apocalypse.
If we could fix just one of those four issues, things would gradually start to get better. But the politicians in Washington don't have the political will or desire to do so, because removing any one of them naturally limits their power and authority.
If we organize we could seize control of the democratic party, and the Democratic establishment has been scared shitless of that since 2016, but they managed to play us off each other like chumps. And they still are. Because we have no organization. Turning us against each other.
This guy is from Maine, and they do have ranked choice voting for federal elections, one of the steps on the way to breaking the two-party stranglehold.
Of course the Republicans fought it tooth and nail, because they will never win another race with a system like this, and exploited a loophole in the state constitution to keep ranked choice out of state races.
the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.
Have you seen the other options? Libertarians are a NAMBLA fueled trainwreck. Greens are... not great for a lot of reasons. Third Way is just fascism in a three piece suit. Reform is six oil companies in a trench coat.
You can't multi-party your way out of this one.
A massive lead you say?
Fuck the DNC.
The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They're explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.
The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump's presidency. They did more than anyone else to ensure - not once but twice - that he would win. The voters made it very clear that they wanted a leftist, and the DNC effectively said, "Fuck you - you're going to get a pro-corporate, pro-zionist, neoliberal piece of shit and if you don't like it, that's your fucking problem."
And they're already laying the groundwork to do it again in 2028.

Look at how the ‘release’ of the 2024 post mortem report is being handled. You’d think it was the fucking Epstein files the way the chair of the DNC oversaw it, reviewed it, and then instructed his team to release their findings and not the report which is over 200 pages. He claims it’s because we ‘need to look forward and not navel gaze and point fingers, we need to learn lessons from the past and move on’. He says this while withholding the actual report from the public and many high ranking officials in the party at large.
The entire thing feels just as you described, ‘fuck you, we are staying the same because that’s all we’re good at, deal with it.’
If we are stuck with this two party system, the Democratic Party needs a huge overhaul, and that report could be a pretty big light in a fucking huge tunnel.
Yeah - I've commented on the autopsy elsewhere, and... yeah.
It's bludgeoningly obvious that they won't release the autopsy because it places blame on themselves, and quite likely even points to specific things that they fully intend to do again, or even are already doing again.
They know full well that they're betraying the voters and they just dont care.
And they deserve to just be thrown out like the trash they are. Send them to the scrap heap and replace them with an entirely new organization that will at the very least actually try to promote candidates the voters actually want to vote for.
I blame Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary Clinton for not letting Bernie battle Trump in 2016. Trump didn't win that election, Hillary lost it.
Bernie would have shone a light on their corruption, and they can't have that.
Bernie was an independent. He was never going to be the democrats candidate. I understand the want and I voted for him. But they were never going to let that happen.
Yes.
Aside from Trump himself, I would go so far as to say that the one single person in the entire world who bears more responsibility for Trump's presidency than anyone else is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
The voters clearly expressed their preference for Sanders and Sanders easily led both Clinton and Trump in polling, and then the DNC effectively fraudulently nominated Clinton anyway (with their technically valid but obviously corrupt defense being that they weren't required to accept the voters' preference).
They set the stage for Trump and the oligarchs to just walk right in, and then tried to blame everybody but themselves when they walked right in.