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Incoming Hot Fix - 2026-05-06 (lemmy.ca)
submitted 2 weeks ago by tiberius@lemmy.ca to c/helldivers2@lemmy.ca
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Attention, Helldivers.

A hotfix is planned for Wednesday, May 6. This will revert the Hive Guard and fix an issue introduced in Patch 6.2.1 where armor values were incorrectly swapped between the Legs and Claws.

Updated Hive Guard stats:

Main Body

  • Armor increased from 1 → 2
  • Health increased from 375 → 500

Head

  • Armor decreased from 4 → 3

Front Legs

  • Armor increased from 2 → 3

Claws

  • Armor decreased from 3 → 1

We are reviewing player feedback, including durability damage, so next week we will also address some of these questions and others which our founder has received in various forums.

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[–] tiberius@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm open to having a variant of the hive guard with heavy armour, not the base version.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm impartial to the AV4 head, having a variant would be even better, but... was the change that bad?
Even if hive guards weren't a problem for pen3 sentries, you would still need to babysit them in order to get the most out of them.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sentries are still fragile as heck, but at least this way they do mostly only shoot things they can damage. The targets you need to keep away from them you can also at least spot in a crowd (chargers, titans) and deal with quick or accept that they'll be a problem that gets distracted. Hiveguards are too numerous for that.

I'd honestly accept them being tankier if shot in the head and other armoured parts though, if it didn't make sentries so wasteful. A system where lower pen still can damage through higher AVs but with even further reduced damage for example would be fine. But that's not what we have.

Also if they did just guard nests like the name implies instead of showing up in groups in bug breaches or called by brood commanders.

There's also a question of faction identity.

The way I see it: Bots are the precision targets. Illuminate have damage mitigating equipment and combined arms. Bugs are the hordes you mow down. Feels odd to have a heavy pen chaff unit in there.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Understandable, though mentioning them specifically for the next hotfix seems a bit much...?

Unless they also mentioned the two glaring issues with the new mechs, and people simply only screenshot the hive guard changes. I use Discord as little as I can.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have also only seen the hive guard bit. I believe this is all they've announced for now.

There's a lot they could/should fix with a lot of community backlash (which is TBF about much more than just this one patch). I guess this is just the easiest thing they could change/revert.

Then again I feel like fixing the sentry and mech flamers and reverting the durable damage buffs on the bot ranged attacks should've also been pretty easy.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The entire patch should be rolled back tbh.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

i play on ~~oshaune~~ edit: omicron pretty much exclusively. i run eruptor/stalwart. i noticed pretty much no change to my playstyle with the hiveguard change: if i dont punch em in the face i cut the legs from under em. i really dont understand the fuss about that part. that said, i dont understand why thr change was made in the first place. it addresses a problem nobody had in a way nobody asked for, as far as i can tell. im a bit upset about the durability damage changes, though. bots and illuminates are in a good place durability damage wise, so we're increasing dd across the board? dafuq? as if frv wasnt fragile enough already.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think for a section of the player base, like yourself, it wouldn't change much. But if you used medium pen (including sentries) it means a bit (MG) or a lot (sentries, maxigun). It kinda just made a couple loadout options worse (not fully unviable or anything, but worse). And like you said the main question I've seen people ask is: why?

And yeah, durable damage is baffling. Just the melee damage and acid being buffed would be questionable imo, but maybe it's needed. Whatever. But why say bot and illuminate mech damage is fine and then buff it anyway? And why not even address how that might affect the FRV, the Gator, etc.? Probably because they didn't consider them, but if they did they should say that because obviously the players will have concerns.

Also: state the damned numbers.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Eruptor/crossbow was already the meta, doing this just reinforced it. Anyone running medium pen would've immediately noticed the change. Hell, I dropped in day 1 of the patch after getting the new SMG (gallant, it's medium pen) and I genuinely thought the penetration was broken because it was bouncing off hive guard faces. They're one of the few enemy bugs that actually had medium pen, and were the most prolific of the few.

Primaries in general are kind of useless against bugs, you burn a whole clip to kill a handful that are replaced by two dozen more. Hence why explosive primaries are meta; they actually do something to stem the tide.