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[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I remember the first time I worked in an office with slack, and there was a bot that let you search for animated gif replies that it would expand in line in the chat. I'm an elder millennial, so this became the primary way I communicated. It was so much easier than pulling up Google image search and pasting a link every time I needed to express frustration by posting a gif of a panda breaking a keyboard. When Something good happened I send some sort of success gif. If something surprising happened, dramatic Beaver. If someone was expressing depression or loneliness, sad Keanu time.

Searching a database of reaction gifs is not art. It's expression, it's communication, but it's not really art. This person is expressing themselves, which is why I think they get so offended at having the output described as slop. But while it's communication, it is obviously not generating something new. There is a creative element, but creation implies transformation, turning a blank page into a drawing. There's no transformation happening in this picture. Just hundreds of elements being rearranged by an algorithm.

I would argue it's theoretically possible to generate actual art with the help of generative AI. I'm not sure how much of it I've seen, And I may be wrong.

But we don't call things like this Slop, just because they were generated with the help of AI. We call them slop, because thousands of actual pieces of art were blended together and homogenized, extruded through a filter, and then presented to us after someone put 2 minutes of thought into a line of text. It is as artistic as when I would post a gif of fireworks after someone said they successfully completed a task.

Martin Scorsese created a piece of art when he filmed The godfather. When I post a gif of Vito Corleone petting his cat, in response to someone asking me a favor, I am not creating art.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would argue it's theoretically possible to generate actual art with the help of generative AI. I'm not sure how much of it I've seen, And I may be wrong.

AI is shit at generating art on its own, but it is good at presenting a grand averaging of things. Ask it for an image of X with Y doing A in B location, it’ll produce a triangulation of those four things that isn’t quite human. Not objective, of course, but the process is particularly mechanical in a way humans don’t process..

Which does position AI content to be used by actual artists as the “muse” for reflection and response to the world around them, which art has always done. AI discerns an average, the artist creates original art that says something about that average.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm just reluctant to say that AI cannot ever possibly be used to generate art, because clippings from magazines can be used to generate art. A jar of piss and a crucifix can be used to generate art. Someone far more creative than me could conceivably, theoretically, use these tools to generate something worthwhile.

This comic isn't art. It's a glorified reaction gif. Everything that I've seen from AI is more like a glorified reaction gif than art.

When you tell generative AI to make a picture you're commissioning something from an algorithm. Davinci created a work of art in the Mona Lisa, the patrician who commissioned the painting did not create art.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

I'm just reluctant to say that AI cannot ever possibly be used to generate art, because clippings from magazines can be used to generate art. A jar of piss and a crucifix can be used to generate art. Someone far more creative than me could conceivably, theoretically, use these tools to generate something worthwhile.

Collaging is a form of that artistic reflection of the world I was talking about. So yeah, I could see a version of that being done with AI.

When you tell generative AI to make a picture you're commissioning something from an algorithm. Davinci created a work of art in the Mona Lisa, the patrician who commissioned the painting did not create art.

Which is what a lot of these AI “artists” are after, the feeling of being a patrician with the largesse to get art made for them.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

When you tell generative AI to make a picture you're commissioning something from an algorithm. Davinci created a work of art in the Mona Lisa, the patrician who commissioned the painting did not create art.

Great analogy, comrade. I like that a lot.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This one is just confusing, why are they Star Trek?

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because it's from a subreddit dedicated to Star Trek slop.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not just star trek slop but explicitly Ai generated start trek slop

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t spend time on the old site at all these days but I find it very telling that there are breakaway subs for communities you know wouldn’t be into this. I know there’s a solarpunk one as well. I think it’s pretty funny that they seem to all devolve into trying to justify why they’re doing is cool actually rather than, you know, being a wing of their community that is happy to use an extra tool.

I’m still trying to place what I feel about this stuff. There’s something almost cultlike about it. The old folks in my family have started to blast the group chats with the most uninspired “bespoke” generated birthday “drawings” and I don’t know at all how to explain why it seems cheap, why the gesture feels somehow more careless than saying nothing at all.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The old folks in my family have started to blast the group chats with the most uninspired “bespoke” generated birthday “drawings” and I don’t know at all how to explain why it seems cheap, why the gesture feels somehow more careless than saying nothing at all.

Fuck that's bleak

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Not really. I hardly considered crusty clip art charming, but in comparison, there’s a sincerity to an older relative scrolling to find the perfect pixelated bouquet photo. Older people love “AI”.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago

That it’s the typical pseudo-Ghibli style complete with piss filter ties it all together. They couldn’t even be arsed to ask the AI to make it in the style of one of the animated Star Trek shows. That level of not caring about the process is why people call it slop.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

I think one aspect (out of many) that makes AI art so icky is the inherent insincerity of it. It imitates art that takes human artists dozens of hours to create and is appropriately appreciated by people, while itself only taking seconds to generate. AI artists want the same appreciation for their low-skill, low-effort slop as people who have honed their craft for decades and without whom their AIs wouldn't be able to function. Additionally AI art takes up so much raw space, any art platform that doesn't ban it gets absolutely flooded with low-effort assembly line garbage that often refuses to identify itself as such, hoping to trick people into thinking someone actually put work into it.

Art is not impressive if anyone can do it. A photo-realistic drawing is more impressive than a photo of the same thing, even though the latter might be "objectively" more detailed/accurate. I could create a Star Trek cartoon like that within an hour using GenAI, but creating the exact same thing by hand would take me years. AI artists however pretend like their low-effort slop has the same creative value as any hand-made art.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They want to only drink raw milk from a full pasture cow which never was closer than 50 km from a GMO plant, hand-milked by a barefoot busty illiterate teenager otherwise they think it's gay.

But Art^TM^ ? Oh yeah give me the american craft slices equivalent of it

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

This should be the dictionary definition of AI slop. Everything is wrong with this...I struggle to call it a picture, but I suppose it is.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, the 1995 film Monsters Incorporated

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Real Star Trek fans depict Worf as a barbarian. Totally in character for Worf.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Except none of those other things were ever called "Slop" like this, because the problem isn't that it is a new creative medium that challenges the old ones, but rather that it isn't a creative medium at all, as evidenced by this...thing. It's a meat grinder to turn actual art into slop for piggies with no standards, hence why the output is called "slop"

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

one of the funny aspects of AI content to me is how they're always like "Wow this technology democratizes art. Now we can all tell any story we want!!" and then 99% of the output is either

whining about people talking shit about GenAI like this,

rip offs of commercial films that the AI could use as the reference,

stuff that is straight just a pixar character or something looking at the camera going "I CREATED THIS WITH CLAUDE 4.59 ART IS FOR EVERYONE NOW!",

.... or.... cuck fantasies as apparently men are wont to do with any new technology they get their hands on.

But it's always one of the four lol

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

don't forget the piss filter!

[–] pongo1231@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's slop all the way down

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Slop has been a word associated with AI, and iirc--before AI became mainstream--the word was used to describe games, software, and other creative works/products of labor that were churned out for the sake of profit, whether it was an indie dev developing 100s of crappy Steam Greenlight games that repeated the same formula of the same sloppily written codebase, or some capitalist hyperexploiting their workers to create rushed work that lacks any soul because of the intense alienation it was made under. I always felt "slop" existed, especially under capitalism, and because there's so much "slop" on the internet resulting from the push for quantity and speed over quality, AI will likely produce more slop because it reflects the majority of works that the system encouraged. In a sense, AI isn't artificial intelligence, but alienation imitation.

I'm not sure I am stating something that is obvious, noteworthy, or already discussed, but I haven't really seen it mentioned in this context almost anywhere online, and it's something that has been on my mind for a while.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

yeah we switched from calling it "shovelware" to "slop" several years before LLMs were a thing

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i'm always in such an odd spot with this debate because i actually love procedural generation, particle effects, fractals, shit like that where, oh no, technically i'm just setting up a little bespoke machine that eventually produces the actual thing you see. half the time i'm doing the "was jackson polluck a painter" debate against myself, about myself

either way fuck these guys lol, i respect mspaint deviantart more than ai slop, it's got more humanity in it

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

The artistic equivalent of pink slime. Imagine if LLMs could print out food like substances. It would be so terrible, but I'm guessing if you just want sugary and salty food like objects to consume, it would be like a personalized treat dispenser. Your health would obviously deteriorate because of these worthless "meals".

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Ah, yes. I clearly remember how Toy Story was critically panned as digital slop back upon it's 1995 release. Who would ever have thought it would go on to be culturally re-evaluated instead of fading into obscurity?

The right cant make real art, only AI slop