Selfhosted

Leeching off corporations' infrastructures for free is a noble endeavor and everyone should do it.

spotify and google will figure out a way to block modded apps eventually.

nobody can take your home server and its content away from you

i also only download flac files, and i keep them in my ~/music/lossless directory. i use picard to organize that, and wrote a bash script to keep a synchronized opus format copy in ~/music/lossy. on my phone i use termux/ssh to rsync the lossy files to my phone and avoid streaming altogether. for reference, my lossless directory is 221gb, and lossy is 19gb.

why not both?

Don't use revanced. The backbone of the dev team moved to morphs now, and so do other modders that used to dev using revanced.

https://morphe.software/

There was a bunch of drama that's worthy for Lemmy but stuck in reddit that I don't care to bring here.

It got easier to patch things in some ways, but having known how to do it "the complex way" with vanced and revanced before I feel like some is lost in translation.

But overall it's a lot better with morphe, the patches against megacorps efforts to block access comes quicker than revanced, and the YouTube minimum app requirement now moved up

Soulseek has far more music on it than you can typically find on free public torrent sites.

Just a heads up.

I wrote an application which runs on my server and monitors my favorites on Tidal/Deezer/Qobuz. It downloads them in bulk whenever I have a premium account with one of them. Usually I purchase a month of premium every few months, at which point I get nice clean FLACs for local use.

The FLACs are moved to Jellyfin and I stream them using Finamp, which also supports transcoding, so I keep 128 kbps Opus files for offline playback and stream the raw FLAC files when bandwidth is no concern.

I have amassed a huge music library over the last decades, so even if all streaming websites go under tomorrow, I have enough music locally to last me a lifetime.

Bought a home server, threw at it an HDD and installed jellyfin. Now I buy my music from bandcamp or rip my own cds (yup, I'm buying cd's back too) and haven't logged to spotify ever since.

Can't be happier.

Mp3 collections never stopped being cool, you just have to invest some time into it

Por qué no los dos?

I use Tidal and Bandcamp

I'm hearing great things about Quobuz

Bandcamp and Quobuz allow you to buy music outright

And I have to mention, as I do in any thread like this: If you self-host music you bought you're a friend to me. If you pirate from billionaires, I don't care. If you pirate from small bands, stop it.

The only problem with something like Revanced is that it can go away at literally any time. It could be shut down tomorrow and you'd lose access to everything it provides. That's fine, or at least tolerable, if you ALSO have something self-hosted you can rely on in case that happens. If you don't have downloaded music self-hosted, then you're totally relying on Revanced permanently and you lose everything if it goes away. Maybe for something like music that's an acceptable risk, but you have to consider it and decide where it is an acceptable risk. What are you going to do if those services you're relying on go away?

Self-hosting, like you said, is about the independence, and the knowledge that once it's up and running on your own hardware, it won't just go away on its own, and it can't just get "shut down" unless you choose to. You might not need that for every service you rely on, but there are probably at least some you would struggle without, and those are things you should consider self-hosting. The more you think about it, and the more comfortable you get with it, the more likely you'll decide other things are important enough to self-host after all.

Use the left to find content, use the right to consume the content.

I do both.

The music I like is in my collection. I pay for it where I can, but I'll be honest some of it is pirated because I just can't buy it anywhere.

I also use Opentune to listen to YouTube music without logging in to stream stuff like "lofi chillhop beats".

I recently saw around here a music discovery service (self-hosted) I might try. Can't remember the name...

Either way, just remember to support artists when you can. Bandcamp Friday is one of the best ways I know of to fund artists in exchange for FLACs that you can legally listen to however you want to.

But I was a broke student in the heydays of torrenting, so I'm not judging using any means necessary to listen to music.

Ive been trying to get rid of YouTube for over a year now, but haven't found a solution im happy with so still sticking with revanced YouTube.

Got rid of Spotify 2 years ago and self host navidrome and it's perfect for me. I use dsub2000 on my android and feishin on my Linux desktop pc.

I'm UK based, so fairly strict internet laws and I torrent to supplement my owned media. I don't use flac, I'm sure if I tried I could hear the difference from 192kbit MP3, but honestly I don't care. 192kbit or similar mp3's are more than good enough for me.

Self hosting costs money. Hardware setup initially is expensive, both in money and time and effort. It's only a solution if you believe there is a problem that needs fixing.

For me it's well worth it for music. Video not so much, not yet anyway. I listen to the same songs 100s of times, but videos only once or maybe twice at most.

You're in the selfhosted community, surely you know what sort of answer you're going to get. If you just need to hear it, selfhost!

@v4ld1z I download my music onto each device, personally, but I do have some experience with streaming. I prefer it just to be rid of the companies, but I do also cut the quality of all of my music down from FLAC to 128kbps MP3s. I can't hear the difference, even on high end equipment, so it's just a gain for me. YMMV on that though.

I just use nextcloud to sync it all, though, and Symfonium on mobile/strawberry on desktop. It's about 10 gigs for all of my music. I don't have the largest collection, but 1.3k songs is still quite a bit

A as a step towards B man

Both. Use YT & Spotify as discovery engines (along with Pandora, Jango, and Soma FM), but download your favorite tracks and self-host.

You can always transcode flac to another format to save bandwidth. I haven't used jellyfin for music, but shouldn't it support transcoding that too on the fly?

I've got both.

Jellyfin with high quality for the things that I want to listen all the time.

Newpipe for on demand things.

Self hosting for things I care to keep around, streaming to get new download ideas and for stuff where hosting everything would be too much.

For movies and shows I find myself some Linux ISOs.
Music, I get from Bandcamp if available and if not, there are very good Tidal downloaders out there. Tidal also doubles as my "I want to check out this song" service.

Personally, I ripped my CDs to MP3S, and convert anything I downloaded to MP3, as well. I'm no audiophile, so I really can't tell the difference when listening; the difference is only noticeable when I look at my storage and bandwidth.

I listen to a LOT of music - basically most of the day when I'm not on a call.

I don't follow the mainstream so never had a spotify account, and am really listening either to radio-browser.info or a few channels on youtube that I sponsor, which link to the artists on bandcamp, where I buy the music I like.

To your point on bandwidth, I try to store music at the highest quality I can get, but then transcode to players.

I did try mp3fs to live transcode files to my phone in the past, but didn't use it much in the end.

I've torrented some music in the past, but TBH, I find it in different places easier nowadays.

I used to find some interesting stuff with Napalm FTP indexer - but be very careful with direct connections to random FTP servers.

I have a very similar experience, I still use Spotify and YT to discover new music, but I then torrent it (or find it on soulseek) to keep my jellyfin collection growing. I also buy off bandcamp since that's pretty convenient to fill in my favorite albums.

Self host, takes less time then you think after the initial library build. Easy to do in a weekend. If you have some money to spend on music then buy music from the artists you love. Can all be in one place, none of this exclusive garbage, quality as high as you want, can rip music that’s never been released digitally, and I think most importantly - access to your music library without an algorithm telling you what to listen to. You’ll be surprised how your listening habits change and how well you know your music after jumping off the engagement treadmill.

Personally, I just have the local files saved on my devices and listen to them locally. No usage of the network, no need to set up Navidrome or anything like that, it works really well! I don't really change the music I listen to that much, but if I did need to sync between devices, I could simply use Syncthing!

One slight gripe is that, when listening to music on my phone, I get notification pings interrupting my music. When I get the time, I want to get a dedicated MP3 player to avoid this issue, probably some iPod or a clone that supports Rockbox.

By the way if you want a really cheap and easy setup for the time being while you figure out jellyfin/navidrome and docker and all that.

Symfonium app can run from a google drive that you can spin up for free and throw some music into. And then if you end up self hosting you can just point it to your server.

Poor quality no los dos?

I've mostly gone with pirating. I've built a massive library of flac songs, as for when I'm outside I can't stream cause I'm stuck with ADSL, but I usually keep some albums I'm into on my phone and I also use Grayjay to discover new music.

there is a hidden button called bandcamp, idk where you can get music to stream maybe api server that use your free ytmusic and spotify solutions)

I don't use most of the software you mention, but converting FLAC to other formats is pretty easy. E.g. with ffmpeg you'd say

ffmpeg -i somesong.flac -o somesong.mp3

or similarly for other formats. There are more options to control the output bit rates and that sort of thing.

Revanced to discover new music, then selfhost what you liked.

I went with jellyfin. Got 10 gigs free from box and Mount it with rclone.

If you have less than 10 GB of music, this is best. If you have TB of music, maybe not