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[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Weird to think Japan has a lower racial diversity than North Korea

[–] AAA@feddit.org 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

North Korea is probably "no data".

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Weird that they would assign it a value of 2% if it's "no data"

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I can't believe it's even 2% TBH.

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[–] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If these conclusions are backed by science, then they are based on the collection of DNA. A scientist would need to sequence the genomes of thousands-maybe tens of thousands-of random people from all across the country. The more populous the country, the more random samples would need to be collected to derive meaningful results.

...this imposes limitations on which countries could be analyzed. Smaller countries would be easier, and they'd need to be of some economic or scientific interest to justify the cost. In a country like North Korea, only the government would be allowed to collect this data. If they were willing to spend the money, I doubt they would release even anonymized results.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If I had to stab at it, maybe they consider north/south related families separately? There can’t possibly be Chinese living there outside of government contracting.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think it was some pure ethnostate in the first place, and why wouldn't Chinese people count?

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 38 points 5 days ago (7 children)

If you want to reach people, you need to name the countries. You can't just expect people to know 200 flags of the world.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Especially when one of them is Poland, which is incredibly easy to confuse with a couple of other flags. In order from the lowest percentage to the highest:

  • 1st row: Japan, North Korea, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Egypt

  • 2nd row: Jordan, Armenia, Comoros, Poland, South Korea

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Other than Indonesia, what can you confuse polish flag with? It's just red and white stripe, too simple to get confused, isn't it?

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[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

🇺🇸 🇱🇷 🇲🇾 🇨🇱

[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I mean, it's got a map, too...

I can ID Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Egypt, Tunisia, and Poland on there without even going to check if I'm right. (I also correctly guessed Bangladesh and Jordan but had to check to be sure, and incorrectly guessed Georgia instead of Armenia.)

Can't tell what the 10^th^ country is, though, as I don't see any others marked in red.

[–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I looked it up: you are missing Comoros, apparently, which is country consisting of a few islands off the east coast of Africa, above Madagascar, near Mayotte.

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

A lot of these actually make a lot of sense. All of these countries make it incredibly hard to integrate into society as a foreigner either because of domestic policy or straight up the language barrier.

In the case of Tunisia, it’s the most liberal Arab country, which is remarkably close to France because of colonialism. Many Arabs wouldn’t want to move to such a place. I don’t think Tunisian Arabic would be the barrier there.

Polish is fucking difficult to pronounce with its 4 and 5 consonant clusters (if I had to guess, most languages max out at 3), and it’s not found anywhere else in the world because Poland didn’t colonize anywhere. They were lucky to get their own country if you look into their history.

Armenia is incredibly socially, religiously, and linguistically dissimilar to everywhere around it. Good luck wanting to move there; 2/3’s of ethnic Armenians live outside the country.

Egypt is the most surprising, because it was colonized and bothered by both the British and French, but it doesn’t have that diversity anymore?

Jordan is a theocratic strong monarchy. Makes sense that non-Jordanese wouldn’t move there.

Bangladeshi people were packed into the country with the partition of India. It’s super ethnically dissimilar to Burma and India. The partition really amplified that.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Poland has a certain... reputation...which is why they haven't got much racial diversity.

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[–] frankenswine@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah this seems a bit rage bitey or just illogical.

Are americans one race or are say native americans spliced out? Is it culture or actual population movement?

Also we all are un the human race to start with.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Somewhat haphazardly, probably 🤷🏻

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Lasers, photos, or checkered flag usually.

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[–] anthropomorphized@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Japan North Korea Bangladesh Armenia Egypt Jordan Tunisia Comoros (but it's not on the map, I just know the flag) Poland South Korea

These are my guesses. This is a game, I'm only 85% sure

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seeing so many Asian countries in the list, my guess would be that white/red flag is probably Indonesia. Can't believe it is not.

[–] MrKurteous@feddit.nu 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Indonesian is red at the top while Polish is red at the bottom, so the flag is Polish for sure!

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is indeed Poland flag. I just always found it hard to remember. Also, I am surprised. I would guess Indonesians are more closed in for racial diversity compared to Poland. Wonder how much diversity does Indonesia actually have.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Loads. Indonesia comprises thousands of islands spread out over 5000km, which will have given rise to very different cultures + limited genetic exchange. Indonesia also only became unified for the first time as a Dutch colony in the 20th century, so whatever cultural and genetic blending is going on now, it only started happening relatively recent.

Poland in comparison is much smaller, the only natural barriers are rivers, they've been a nation for a millennium, and they had population expulsions/exchanges after ww2.

[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ya got any names with those flags?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Japan, NK, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Armenia, Comoros, Poland? and SK.

Edit: It is poland, I'm just wondering how Poland got there.

[–] LumiNocta@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Racism? Nationalism?

[–] alfredon996@feddit.it 12 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Racial or ethnic diversity?

[–] fcuks@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

what's the difference? I have been using both interchangeably so interested in learning the nuance

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I wonder if there's an inverse correlation between racial diversity and racism (whether casual or systemic). Of course it's not easy to quantify the latter...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure about the actual prevalence of racism, but one thing I can tell you is that living in a less diverse place makes it real easy for people to be blissfully unaware of their own racism, whereas actually interacting with people of other races forces them to confront it about themselves.

I've seen plenty of people here on Lemmy from lily-white states like Minnesota or Montana dunking on the South in the most bigoted way while simultaneously being holier-than-thou about it.

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[–] magikmw@piefed.social 13 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I bet there's plenty research on it. I have a lot of thoughts from Polish perspective, but I don't actually know anything about it.

I.E. I suspect there's little systemic racism in Poland because there's no history that would bring it (no colonialism history in modern era and post-WW2 erased any laws from 30s.

Causal, very much - less these days in media, but there's still racist idioms and jokes. I'd say it's directly proportional to familiarity, but not exactly malicious.

Then there's obviously neonazis and "intellectual racists" that have it all figured out.

That's my casual take about this very not casual topic.

[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also only anecdotal, but when the foreign uni students were evacuated from Ukraine, Poland allowed them all except for the students from Africa.

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[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I suspect there's little systemic racism in Poland

I would suspect there's a lot of systemic racism, but more focused on "holding the line" of immigration rather than attacking the existing minority groups.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

westerners love moving to asia, because they know people are more ignorant there of the drama back home.

[–] joan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I wonder how they count this, how exactly do you define different ethnic groups

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

I wonder where the data comes from, considering in China there's supposedly 91% Han Chinese and that would be less diversity that South Korea

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