Good luck with either of those...
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Only thing I want billionaires to have is fear.
OP posted a choice, you posted an equation
Take away the kids access to communicate with friends and what the fuck do they have left? It's not like we have youth centers or shit any more. Barely had any when I was a kid; that's why I fell in love with the internet.
Attack the actual problem: The owners of propagandized social media platforms owned by billionares that have all the money and reason to use those platforms to gain further influence and power. They are the real reason everything is falling apart; not because a 12 year old is on Twitter.
what the fuck do they have left?
Lots of things! Wellness farms, military readiness camps, factory labor. The possibilities are endless!
How the fuck is banning kids from social media taking away their access to communication with their friends? That's a non-sequiter.
"Do you guys not have phones?"
Not only physical contact/communication but email, chat programs, etc. exist...
Argue for either side but Im with you that it's a complete farce to say this is taking away their access to communication.
Before the Internet, kids lived isolated existences that precluded communication. They would sit in their rooms, listen to records, and engage in immoral masterbatory behavior.
It’s true. For the first 18yrs of my life I never encountered another kid, just whacked it and played Sabbath records backwards to summon the devil. As soon as I turned 18 I was ready to join the greater community of godless dopesmokers, D&D players, and pornography connoisseurs.
I remember how as a clueless kid, I just went around the internet, and acted as close as my idiot brain could to other people, and I didn't know to have a distinction between old as fuck and young as fuck.
Except I would simply believe older people knew more if they started talking.
Anyway, unsurprisingly, people assumed I was an adult, and would give me horrific insults, ask me things they should not, and expect me to perform at their level, and have situational awareness.
What a massive fuckup.
It's even worse nowadays because there are fewer meatspace options where they won't have the cops called, let alone that are appealing
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You assume their Friends are physically close
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Take away the kids access to communicate with friends and what the fuck do they have left? It’s not like we have youth centers or shit any more. Barely had any when I was a kid;
well, i grew up in the countryside and we did have youth centers. i can guarantee you i made a wide circle around them, in the sense that i avoided them like the plague
it's not the absence of youth centers that's the problem, it's the fact that i grew up in a very backwards rural countryside full of the exact type of shitheads that you would expect to find there. one person more annoying than the next, the excesses in alcohol consumption weren't the worst part, it was how people looked at people who didn't fit their definition of "normal". really not a good place to be.
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It's not taking away kids access to communicate with friends though. There's a million and one ways kids can communicate these days.
It's taking away adults' access to other people's children.
I agree the pedogarchy is the main issue here, and if you kept up with the 1% of files that were released you would know that having access to children on social media was part of their plan. We can attack that plan from both ends without some slippery slope bullshit about how children need facebook to stay in touch with each other. We all know that's some grade a bolognium.
Cutting off sexual predators is all well and good but it doesn't justify cutting off all perspectives other than those of their parents and immediate community. I think that would overall make abuse worse, which is most commonly coming from family anyway, especially for adolescents that may have something different about them that their parents have regressive attitudes towards. People really don't give enough credit to how much of a positive difference the internet has made with that sort of thing.
When you remember that parents are sometimes abusive and sometimes sexual predators themselves, isolation like this is just enabling abuse
Setting age limits for social media is not the same thing as banning kids from the internet entirely.
It still seems like a very drastic and destructive step, depending on how you are defining social media, which many of these laws seem to do very broadly. If what it amounts to is that minors cannot share their experiences and viewpoints or ask questions in public spaces, there's a lot of harm in that. Personally I feel that being able to talk to people from other parts of the world through web forums, games and message programs when I was 12-18 made a huge positive difference, and I otherwise would have been way more lost and alone.
Everybody knows this age verification crap isn't about protecting children. If you don't realize that, you're naive my dude.
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My parents were involved in a cult, and I never would have made it out if I didn't have normies on the internet telling me that being in a mass marriage ceremony to Jesus at 17 was fucked up.
The people trying to take the internet away from people in your situation are the abusers
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Ban billionaires.
This is the way. IMO no individual should be allowed to have more wealth than the poorest country. Want to earn more? Uplift the impoverished, then you can.
If you made this rule, poverty would literally be solved by tomorrow.
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Banning billionnaires from participating in economics altogether until they hand it all back to society, increasing equity for all.
believe it or not, that's exactly what a wealth tax would do.
Believe it or not, that's exactly why a meaningful wealth tax with such consequences will never be passed and maintained without a literal revolution.
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There's one common element here. Let's ban social media.
If you ban social media only criminals will have social media....
Seriously though I'm not even sure how you define social media such that it couldn't be gamed into meaninglessness.
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Ban all social media that use dark patterns, addictive tactics, manipulative engagement algorithms, and disseminates propaganda.
We need to define what the problems are because they also exist outside of social media.
Why not ban ownership?
Billionaires would just own social media through proxies. They do this bs all the time.
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