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I can't. I just can't.

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[–] doc@sopuli.xyz 143 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

And when all the used cars are gone and I'm forced to buy one of these I'll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 99 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 111 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Because late stage capitalism, lobbyists pushed legislators to allow data collection so that it can be sold to insurance companies who also lobbied so that they can charge more for premiums.

Every company makes more profit.

We don't live in a democracy anymore.

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[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

This was mandated by the 2021 infrastructure bill. I was hoping it got scrapped but apparently not.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not suddenly. It's been going on at least as far back as 2001. Probably more. It's generally not the gov't either as the gov't is mostly driven by moneyed private interests like large corporations. They always push in different ways to get more power to make profit. Get rid of a regulation, make new regulation, get a subsidy, limit rights to resist some abuse, etc. Sometimes it's just more obvious that others in general, or it's in an are we personally pay attention to, and we're like WTAF.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

as someone who has dealt with over 20 years of pulling victims, alive and dead, from crashes caused by drunks (am firefighter not terrible driver..) I can say this won’t help shit. Just give more data (profit) to corporations and be used in rights violating ways.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's never actually about safety

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[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 88 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They will really do anything before investing in public transit

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 36 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Automobile-centric infrastructure was such a colossal societal fuck-up.

Bad for personal health, physical safety, household finances, and the environment. Automobiles are not a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, drunkards in a tram are annoying but they almost never kill people and cause tens of thousands in damage.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 71 points 3 weeks ago
[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 50 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

Reminder that this requires all vehicles be SOLD with the tech. It says nothing about what happens to it after purchase.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It'll be like every other car with driver assistance and every other advanced feature now, everything gets strapped to the same CANbus and unified powerttrain control module so disabling one part of the system causes the car to get stuck in limp mode, have constant nusiance alerts, and fail state inspections to get registered.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

I am never buying a car built after 2016

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

How about limiting the insanely bright headlights first?

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it the bright headlights or the abundance of trucks raised so high that the headlights beam directly into your eyeballs...

Both. It's both.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Cars have been privacy nightmares for quite a while. People simply do not care.

[–] Tywele@piefed.social 34 points 3 weeks ago

Many don’t even know to start caring.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I care. But they make it really hard to remove or disable that shit.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

The day the vehicle I paid for doesn't work because a goddamn sensor thinks I'm not fit to drive is the day I break my foot off in someone's ass.

Fuck this dystopian shit show we're creating for ourselves.

Vote better.

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[–] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"I dont want a chinese car because it would just spy on me"

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

2027, year of Linux car, or bicycle.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Every technology is eventually used against you by the state

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 weeks ago
[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We need to scrap the entire US government and start over.

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[–] viov@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Open source hardware needs to be built up more. To do that we need more new people active in that to get different things done. Including vehicles

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[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It’s 1984 and no one cares

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lately, whenever anyone draws the obvious parallels to 1984, posters seem to jump to say that Orwell had unsavoury beliefs and therefore it negates any correct thing he ever said.

It’s such a weird world where we decide someone must be 100% correct by today’s standards or else everything they ever said must be complete bunk.

All of our historical heroes were assholes by today’s standards, and we will be assholes in the eyes of our descendants.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What the fuck? When did Congress pass this, and why wasn't there a huge public outcry against it?

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Let's spoof the data and say we did it

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

The used car market looks mighty good right about now.

[–] Cad@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Drunk driving is one thing but it will also judge how tired you are? Driving tired is dangerous. Unfortunately a huge portion of our economy runs on people working too many hours at too many jobs. A huge invasion of privacy with all sorts of knockon effects.

For the people who think they will disable this. You won't be able to without also disabling your car and voiding your warrenty.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

My car is constantly telling me to drive with both hands or yo get coffee when I am driving fine.

Many years ago I had a somewhat scary car accident and since I drive very cautiously and never speed. Yet this fucking thing is still yelling at me all the time.

If I could figure out how it decides to yell at me, I would unplug it.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks like I'll need to start stockpiling old camrys and corollas in addition to hard drives, routers, motherboards, ram, dumb TVs, flip phones/whatever else they're taking away this year.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Well now see, now I'm at a cross roads. On the one hand, fuck privacy violations.

On the other hand, fuck drunk drivers.

I guess in the end, my logic is that this will barely be used to detect drunk drivers, and FULLY used to track you in real time.

So lets all fuck over their technology by making nothing but right turns for 8 hours. Just a massive small circle. For 8 hours, every day.

Then it will be assumed their tracking is broken, and they'll waste time figuring out whats broken.

If we all do this, every day, in electric vehicles powered by solar chargers, then we'll save the world!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

This is just "protect the children" in a different form. Could it be used to stop drunk drivers? Sure, maybe. Is that the motivation? Hell no.

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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

So how much is this tech going to raise already stupidly high car prices.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

$100-$500 according to the article. No discount for the biometric data they'll sell.

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