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    submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by XaTuring@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] scrion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)
    [–] katze@lemmy.4d2.org 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Confusing "FOSS" with "free software" comes to mind.

    [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 33 points 1 week ago

    Confusing "FOSS" with just "Open Source" seems like the more typical offender.

    [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 13 points 1 week ago (26 children)

    Count Me in the confused group, I thought FOSS was free as in speech software

    [–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

    Free as in speech (software) is nowadays usually referred to as libre.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (18 children)

    English is a horrible language full of ambiguity. F/LOSS is libre, but not necessarily gratis.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Isn’t it usually the opposite, gratis (because if it’s open source, you could just build it yourself, unless there’s a proprietary build env or hosted env) but not necessarily libre (because of the license?)

    So wouldn’t gratis normally be the superset of libre.

    Then there’s a set of gratis but not open source… someone should do a venn diagram.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    I could potentially just say it costs money to use this software, but allow you to build it yourself if you don't want to

    It's called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) in case you were wondering

    [–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    RHEL contains non-FOSS components, and so is not FOSS.

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    [–] OddDeer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    But the F in FOSS stands for free. I understand that there's a lot more to unpack in the OS part of FOSS, but still, it's not quite wrong.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    The F in FOSS stands for Libre

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    Wine is not an emulator.

    Linux doesn't require programming knowledge to use, just computer knowledge at most.

    I seen a few go opposite end and claim "you do not need computer knowledge, you can just ask chatgpt for the commands and copy-paste."

    The two commands below are equivalent so why the fuck does every single guide online use former?

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
    sudo apt upgrade -U
    
    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Because I understand the former

    The latter can both summon nasal demons and not summon nasal demons. It is in a state superposition until an observer consults the manual

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    Not in apt manpage.
    But in fact at man apt-get.
    I blame the feds.

    -U and --update entry reads "Run the update command before the specified command. This is supported for commands installing, removing, or upgrading packages such as install, remove, safe-upgrade, full-upgrade. This can be useful to ensure a command always installs the latest versions, or, in combination with the-snapshot option to make sure the snapshot is present when install is being run"

    how the fuck is my apartment going to get clean then

    [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

    The second way doesn't work on older systems before they added it. I have some Debian servers where it doesn't work

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    [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    "Linux requires constant fixing."

    Use one of the stable distros. You generally never have to worry about breakage if you don't go looking for it.

    Linux actually has a large swath of testers using rolling release who we've tricked into feeling very superior than the rest of us. /s

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    [–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Ya'll in this comment section are making things more confusing somehow.

    Free Open Source Software:

    Is Free; available without purchase

    Is Open Source; the source code is available to study and fork

    Is Software; A series of intangible instructions that run through a compute module

    Do correct me if I'm wrong, because I've just ripped these from other comments in this thread that have been disputed unclearly.

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    Not financially free but free as in freedom. Although most foss is free, there are foss programs you have to buy but after you bought it you are free to do woth it what you want (although that depends on licences and what falls under copyright).

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Graphics font and name fall under trademark I believe, which separates it from copyright.

    Firefox is a famous example of this. The code for Firefox is completely open to anyone to fork and reuse, but you cannot call your fork Firefox. Mozilla retains the brand and the logo for it.

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

    Yes sorry I meant trademark. It is just visual such as graphics in games that are copyrighted. That is why you still need to buy Doom eventhough the code was open sourced in the 90's.

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    I'd say that 99.somethiny percent of open source software is also free as in beer

    Come to think of it, I can't remember ever having seen open source software that required payment

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    [–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

    Wrong definition of “free,” and funnily enough this is where the ensuing comments section confusion starts.

    [–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    This is about some nerd telling me my Linux issues don't exist and I just need X distro?

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    That's relative to situation and also usually the easier solution to a certain problem because if you need to find a solution for your distro it might come to compiling from source. So, either switch to the distro recommended or just start from Gentoo for everything. If you're using Gentoo, no nerd will tell you to switch to another distro.

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    [–] joan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    I don't think this meme format means what you think it means

    [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    wait someone update this meme to have me drinking out of a straw chain out of the hot dude's straw chain. please title me "complete bullshit lies about FOSS"

    edit: and make me happy gollum with three teeth. that's my mood today.

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