Source: like 7 people on ~~twitter~~ X
Personally, I think the update is a genuine improvement. Everything is more intuitive, and labels for the UI was very much needed.
Yeah, same. I didn't even touch the friends tab at all, so having it as DMs works better for my purposes. But Discord is trying to be the app for so many purposes I'm not surprised people are upset by a major UI change and having it be different to the desktop layout.
works better for my purposes
For yours, not others. That's kind of the crux of the issue with most UI changes nowadays. They're made for the "average user" and the average user has the most basic needs, utilizes few advanced options, and takes advantage of the least functions. They don't even glance at the settings menu.
And when your primary goal developing software is to serve that audience, you will end up inevitably prioritizing aesthetic over functionality over time, until you've got...well, until you've got the reddit mobile app.
"Look pretty, do less"
And every time you do that, you're pissing off your power users a little more.
As with most issues with UI changes, they could be solved by giving the user options to customize their experience to their needs, but the idea of customizable UI is verboten nowadays for consumer apps.
I dislike a couple things -- swipe to reply in general, hiding the server member list within search, and the way they laid out the new tab that combined DMs and friends list. Making the friends list horizontal profile pictures to scroll through is just annoying. Other than that it's fine.
Every time I open discord it just generates popups about features.
Its fucking annoying.
Making a separate button for patch notes like everyone else would take too long.
Odd, I was pretty happy when I got the update. I always thought it was odd that servers and PMs were mixed somewhat in the UI, and hard to distinguish between.
People just don't like things being different than they were ig.
Or is there another change I didn't notice that had people bothered?
I don't dislike all the changes but the removal of the left swipe gesture to access current channel information and pinned message is a huge negative change to me.
Before it was better because all of the messages were in one place.
I mostly use discord for dms and now for some reason I have to switch to a different tab to access them, it's annoying and unnecessary.
App is also slower now.
The two big problems for me are (1) increased slowness and lag, and (2) phantom notifications (a red 10 dot in the bottom notifications but I click in and see that it's empty)
Wait, the new UI I got yesterday? With the servers and messages finally finally separated? I like it personally. I struggle to find my DMs on the desktop app vs servers and never found the overall UI intuitive. I am usually the first to get upset over UI changes (looking at you Google Messages!), but for once I am happy.
One problem I have with it is that it's harder than ever to get to the members list. You have to click a thing at the top of the screen rather than just swiping from the right.
Otherwise I'm mostly happy.
Wait, really? It's not even that big a change! That's a hell of a thing to cut and run for
It's quite a massive change and significantly impacts usability in a lot of cases and it also makes Discord no different from any other app.
If they had just kept the server list in the direct messages view this would've been way less worse.
I’m so confused. When I got this unexpected change I was so excited. This is exactly what’s been wrong with the UX in that app. It’s so much clearer now
It messes with a ton of my common actions and doesn't make them better. Things being hidden behind weird actions now. Some of it will just require me to get used to it, but some of it seems genuinely more cumbersome to perform.
it also makes Discord no different from any other app.
Seems to be the consistent theme now. Legitimately, no app seems to want to have its own visual identity anymore, it's all the same shit, in white or black, with the same floating squircles, wasted screen space, laid out in a manner that provides less information. It's depressingly lifeless and Corporate Memphis levels of inauthentic. The result of a CEO saying "do an Apple" to the UX team, because they gotta hook that young demo, rather than do anything original, identifiable, or interesting.
And they certainly aren't about to spend any amount of time appealing to tech literate power users, or (god forbid) people who like to customize their own UIs.
Imagine paying for Discord in the first place
I don't pay for Nitro but I don't have a problem for people that do. Servers aren't free so it's that or ads.
I swear Lemmy is against paying for anything. So many freeloaders in this world.
No kidding. In a nutshell:
“Big social media bad for stalking the internet for money!”
simultaneously with
“How dare a mid-sized outfit have a voluntary paid tier!”
Lemmy and Reddit users are always simultaneously saying 'pay people a living wage!' while also saying 'no ads, and make it free forever'.
MSN had animated emotes for free like two whole decades ago. MSN had unlimited size file transfers two decades ago, I've sent entire games to my friends on MSN. IRC networks haven't really starved for cash either.
I pay for YouTube Premium since it came out, Netflix, indirectly I'm paying for my emails, matrix, even lemmy.
With Discord, all your money gives you is... emotes and further vendor lock yourself into a proprietary Chinese company and looking good to toxic gamers by flexing those emotes and server boosters.
MSN had animated emotes for free like two whole decades ago
And got discontinued one decade ago because it didn't have a viable business model. Discord is hoping to make a profit by charging for mostly frivolous premium features, which is one of the least evil business models I've seen in a while.
They’ve dodged an acquisition by Microsoft, provide a fairly reliable service, and don’t completely gimp a free tier.
Is this really the company you want to lead a crusade against for having a paid subscription tier?
The paid tier just gives you animated emoji, frilly profile pictures, and 1080p streaming (while the free 720p level is still very decent).
It’s such a useless paid tier that it’s practically no worse than asking for donations (even though they're a for-profit business). It’s a good thing they don’t make a shitty experience on the free tier as many other companies have been doing to recoup money.
They rank pretty low on the list of “tech/gaming companies who’ve fucked their user base”
Yeah exactly. I don't pay for it because I don't think what they offer is worth paying for. But I do use the free tier because it's a pretty good service and it's where people are. They haven't done anything near as bad as Twitter or Reddit have this year.
If other people are willing to pay for the cosmetics, I say let them. If the service is able to be profitable that way, all the better.
proprietary Chinese company
Gonna need a citation for this. Pretty sure they're a privately-held US company.
Technically Tencent was part of one of their most recent funding rounds but AFAIK they are far from a majority stakeholder, so it’s an incorrect claim.
I always initially hate UI changes, will make my decision in a few days if I like it
Look at you with your emotional maturity and introspection. Not sure you fit this place! :)
Discord offers subscriptions and micro transactions in a chat app. This is the future of everything thanks to people going "oh it's not so bad".
This is honestly just people hating it because its different? There is no feature removal, its just built differently. Also i find it disgusting that THIS is why people are boycotting nitro. Imagine being comfortable supporting probably the largest service hosting CSAM (and not doing much about it) but drawing the line at it taking an extra tap to view server members.
One Google search on Dextero and I will pass one using it as a source of information.
although i use a different mobile client that's built on older code (aliucord for those curious!), i still tried out the new update and it isn't terrible imo. what i mainly don't like is the server list and dms being completely seperate now, how spaced out things are, the swipe to reply feature, the members + pinned messages list being moved, how messages don't have a smooth little transition/animation when you send them. there are some things i like, like how in the members/pinned messages list theres a media and links tab now.. and other things i don't remember right now lol, but the cons outweigh the pros for me.. back to aliucord i go :p
huh, I opted into the new layout months ago. I got use to it quickly.
Edit: I went back to discord to find the server tray/drawer the beta had disappeared. If this is the final version, I’m surprised people are upset. The drawer was the most radical change.
Reading this, I just switched to see as well. That drawer was atrocious UX, and the new design without it is actually pretty good.
I don't find myself getting frustrated with having to tap repeatedly to do anything, and the separation of DMs and servers is cleaner and more intuitive than the old layout where they were mixed together.
The UI changes are horrible. They make it so it takes more taps to get to places. Idk who is in charge of that but they need to reevaluate things. Also paying for discord is hilarious. But people unsubscribing is the only way they might roll back.
I cancelled my nitro years ago because what exactly is the benefits that I can’t do with being a freeloader? Besides I’m sure they scrape all my data anyways
Yeah it is bad.
I actually like it lol. I guess I’m in the super minority.
I just took a look and it seems fine. Way easier to access messages which is the main reason I use discord on my phone. I thought the UI was shit to begin with so it's hard for them to do worse.
It already took too long to go to DMs from the base screen. They really need the ability to have a favorite list that includes both.
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