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Like how do you fit all the Chinese characters on a Chinese laptop, wouldn't that take up a shit ton of space?

Sorry I'm a big ignorant American who barely speaks English so I got no fucking idea.

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[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Japanese uses either a "regular" keyboard with latin letters that you use to spell approximations of Japanese sounds, or something like what western phones used to use where you have 10 buttons that each allow you to select from 5 characters each by flicking. Like this The second is what most Japanese speakers use on our phones. In both cases, after typing something (usually several words) you have suggestions displayed to you that match the pronunciation of what you just typed.

With a standard keyboard as an example ka -> か -> 化

Here's a good video you can skip around https://youtube.com/watch?v=to8QUll9_gM.

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[–] bunnossin@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

IIRC in China they type in pinyin and then basically have an autocorrect algorithm that generates the characters

There's some cool alternative input methods out there too.

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Interesting, I've never heard of pinyin before.

I wish I had the time and energy to learn Mandarin, always thought it'd be interesting to learn a language that so structurally different to European languages but sadly I just don't have the brain for it. I'm still trying to get decent at Spanish.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In addition to pinyin, people also just write the characters by hand using their fingers, like on a phone. There's also things like Zhuyin, used in Taiwan, that are usually harder for non-native speakers to learn than Pinyin. You learn the most common character components and then 'build' full sentences that way.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Learn it. Is fun. It doesn't have to be a chore, it can be a hobby.

我相信你

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is 我对你有信心 a better way to say "I believe in you"? I feel like I have only ever seen 我相信你 mean like you believe what someone is saying

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago

Is 我对你有信心 a better way to say "I believe in you"?

Not native, but, I don't think that's a better way to say it. 我相信你 can, contextually, also mean 'I believe in you'.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

谢谢你。我的汉语不太好。我总是忘记了对的语法和词

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

还有更自然更地道的说法:

我老是[记不住]我所学过的语法和词汇

老是比“总是” 会听起来更加 colloquial 反而“总是”听起来更加书面一些

“记不住”这个语法搭配 [动词+不住]特别好用。意思就是根本做不了[什么]。[记不住]是你怎么也[记住不了]语法和词汇

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm so shit at this language

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry I didn't want to discourage you. I want to give some targeted grammar tricks to say the same sentence in a smoother way. I also went through the same learning steps as you and would have previously constructed my sentences in the same way, til I encountered the more 'natural' sentence constructions

(Also, I tried to give my feedback in Chinese cos I know you'd be able to handle it, rather than Englifying it for you)

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

May I ask what methods you use to learn? I've been plateaued for over a year.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Language classes and tutors. I can't self study. I need an external teacher or tutor, and classmates, to keep my nose to the grind stone.

Unfortunately that's it, I've learnt that I am not motivated to download and use apps consistently (Anki, HelloChinese), or go through online materials. I can't even get by on 'change your UI to Chinese' or 'Play videogames in Chinese' (both of which I did) because my brain just glosses over the words to skip the effort.

The only apps I used were Hellotalk and iTalki to meet language partners who may have incidentally been Chinese teachers, or who were patient enough to try to break the grammar down for me.

When I was in-country I also did extra tutoring as a 'volunteer student' at a private teacher training college.

I also picked up some hobbies (both in China and here) that were 100% in Chinese. Even if I my Chinese was shit, I still got social value out of it.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cool. I did have a couple of Chinese teachers a few years back but I fell out of the habit. I'll be in China again next year so hopefully I can make it stick. The apps I use are basically useless.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Apps are a trap. Especially Duolingo. They give the illusion of progress but no effective learning.

In my experience, I think an ounce of output is worth a pound of input. By which I mean for example, talking to someone for ten minutes entirely in Chinese is probably worth about two hours of watching a variety show or playing Black Myth Wukong.

Output forces you to consolidate your learning in real time to communicate, rather than just getting by with 'I know or think I know what this means enough to enjoy the show'.

You can even force output by journalling, talking to yourself in Chinese (e.g. narrating what you're doing as you do it), or recording videos of yourself and watching. You don't get the feedback, but you're still forcing some of those neural pathways.

To a lesser degree you can also tune your ear, pronunciation and accent by 'shadowing' (watching/listening to a show and repeating exactly what you hear immediately, like you're a 'shadow' following the speaker's words). It's not as effective as conscious output but it is still forcing your brain and tongue to speed up and anticipate what is being said.

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't trust myself sadly :(

But maybe I'll give it a wing, at worst I'll learn how to say "where is the bathroom" in Chinese which is the most useful phrase ever.

[–] KoL_Enjoyer@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

洗手间在哪里?

洗手间 - Bathroom [literally wash-hand-room]

在 - (is) at [many usages but here it means is]

哪里 - where? [a where-question pronoun together with a character meaning inside]

All of these are words contained within the first or second official level of Chinese for foreigners (the HSK exam), and building a basic sentence is actually quite easy :)

It can be daunting to start learning Mandarin because of the characters and tones, but the total disparity from English makes it fun to explore - a whole different world of language!

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

This video is VERY informative.

Honestly I think the super convoluted Chinese typewriter from back in the day is kind of cool but I see why it was a super pain in the ass to use.

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[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

I haven't really started learning chinese, but I toggle the pinyin option in linux and it's pretty cool. pinyin is the standard way of phonetically spelling chinese with latin letters. As I understand it, you type the pinyin (without diacritics), and the autocomplete-like function usually figures out what you mean. 你好 . I got that by selecting pinyin mode, typing "nihao" then hitting space. As I typed, it offered a bunch of different options for other ways the pinyin could be interpreted