This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
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I commented on their meme about Kamala Harris being just as likely to commit war crimes as Trump with an admittedly snarky, sarcastic reply that basically said "some of us wanted to whatever we could, as little as it might be, instead of watching the world burn. Must feel real morally superior safe behind that keyboard"
They banned me from the community for it.
Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as "free from the influence of .ml"
defends a right wing cop in an anarchist space
YDI
Didn't defend Kamala. Defended the people who chose to vote for her instead of abstaining. Very big difference
Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as “free from the influence of .ml”
it's also anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist. so it makes perfect sense that liberal nonsense in defense of a cop (ACAB) who supports Israeli crimes against humanity would not be welcome. it isn't a comm that's friendly towards the United States government or their politicians, so why go there to simp? kamala is a piece of shit, and you should be ashamed for defending her.
who defended her? I defended the people who chose to vote for her instead of abstaining. Big fucking difference
And this is literally the entire problem. Y'all can't tell the difference between people who support shitty policies, and people who do what little is within their power to reduce harm
The idea of a ballot being capable of reducing the harm in a system rooted in colonial domination and exploitation, white supremacy, hetero-patriarchy, and capitalism is an extraordinary exaggeration. There is no person whose lives aren’t impacted everyday by these systems of oppression, but instead of coded reformism and coercive “get out the vote” campaigns towards a “safer” form of settler colonialism, we’re asking “what is the real and tragic harm and danger associated with perpetuating colonial power and what can be done to end it?”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/voting-is-not-harm-reduction
Harm reduction is harmful
Voting as harm reduction does more harm than good. Accepting reforms through voting makes people settle for a partial goal; it is a concession. From this position of compromise, the state entrenches its position, and it becomes more difficult to push further, for voters fear losing their partial gains. Accepting harm reduction also divides the movement, because some will be satisfied with the crumbs, while others want it all (see the split at the ZAD). Harm reduction also assumes that the harm (the government) cannot be removed entirely, which is an argument that there can be no anarchy.
Voting is not harm reduction
For the vast majority of issues, there’s no difference between the political parties. They are all the parties of business, climate destruction, deportation, incarceration, police, surveillance, drone strikes, sacred site desecration, et cetera. By getting you to believe that there is a lesser of two evils, the state dampens your desire for abolishing it, because you are meant to believe that things will be worse if you don’t vote and support a political party. Look at the fact that the George Floyd Rebellion occurred under Trump, where liberals, and progressives, and leftists didn’t get what they want, where the harm was supposedly greater, than under Biden, where those same people lie dormant, accepting the lesser evil world as a blessed reprieve.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-why-you-shouldn-t-vote#toc1
Still not rule breaking in that community though? if they'd posted this I'd have had a conversation about it sooooo....?
who defended her? I defended the people
that's fucking bullshit, and you know it.
YDI
The way you said it was out of line.
You could say the same thing without being nasty. You chose to go hard at some stranger online, and got banned for it. It's one of the very rare things that fully justifies a first offense permaban.
Why? Because anyone going that nasty for no good reason will absolutely, 100% keep doing it.
I've caught bans for being an asshole like that, and deserved every single one. In the past, I've handed out bans over at reddit for that exact behavior and have zero regrets.
Next time, try and remember that even if the meme is shit, attacking someone like that ain't cool.
Regardless of your opinion, attack the idea not the person. You know nothing about the person who posted so you made some pretty big assumptions that they a) do nothing to help and b) are even from the USA. That said, your comment is pretty typical internet fare that I'd just roll my eyes at and downvote.
The mod did the same of course, replying with an ad hominem.
Little bit of YDI (a temp ban maybe) but also PTB for the 74 year ban which is an overreaction IMO (~~maybe BPR~~ I just saw someone else banned for 74 years from that comm for saying idiotic which is apparently ableist lol).
they didn't receive a ban for 74 years, they received a permanent ban, which in the case of piefed bans until the year 2100. next year the bans will be for 73 years.
74 years is the default PieFed permanent ban length.
Me reading this comment section.
People please stop locking yourselves down into emotional traps.
I would argue that yes the ban is heavy handed but you should have known where you were commenting as well. I truly understand your position as in France that's what we are forced to do every 5 fucking years. Just please try to be more diplomatic in your comments next time and I am sure that you would not have been banned.
Imagine what it's like for someone of colour to have to vote for a prosecutor as the alternative of the Devil. It's like voting for the middle manager of Hell.
Everyone here is right in their own way but please chill.
YDI. Cultists of either party should not be allowed
You chose to parrot some of the most blatant neoliberal talking points in an anarchist community, this is the natural conclusion to that. Honestly YDM, people in anarchist communities are very tired of neoliberal trolls coming into our spaces and whining about fixing the world through voting.
This place is the new aita, hey.
Nah, this one has much less (self aware) fictional writing.