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Multiple waterproof 4k cameras pointed at the inside of your shower from every angle.
Don't forget to use Wifi and no firewall
If someone wants to see my hairy ass they better have a 4k view of it
Made a flowchart for you:
< Do you feel wet? >
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+-- yes --> < are you indoors? >
| |
| +-- yes --> < are you wearing pants? >
| | |
| | +-- yes --> [ you peed yourself ]
| | |
| | +-- no --> [ you're taking a shower ]
| |
| +-- no --> [ it's raining ]
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+-- no --> [ you are not taking a shower ]
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You could use a classic dead man switch: Place several buttons around the whole place - basically everywhere except in the shower. Once you stop pressing any of these buttons for - let's say - 30 seconds you can assume you're taking a shower.
Without trying something similar yet, here are some ideas:
Also think of other times you “use” the shower, like cleaning it. Some methods will also be triggered then.
Yep. Sometimes these automations with all exceptions get so complicated that it's easier to just put a small button somewhere.
Good ideas, let's see
motion sensor on top of your shower
That'll detect my shower area motion not when shower in on. When I am cleaning the shower or sitting in a bathtub I don't want mood lighting or other automations to be triggered.
trying to detect the vibration of the water flow
Vibration sensor can work but it's a ceiling shower so I'll have to see if I have enough space. This is the closest to a viable solution given my situation.
a simple switch that you hit before you get into the shower
Yeah that's a fallback option, but I try to automate my home whenever I can and not perform manual tasks. I know my groggy morning self is forgetting to even hit this simple switch.
I would put a temperature sensor on the line feeding to your shower to trigger on a temperature rise, but it all depends whether it's accessible somewhere. Setting your trigger to something like 33 degrees would mean it only triggers on warm showers, cold showers you're on your own.
If you have a shower cubicle, could you put a door open sensor on it, and assume you're showering if the door is closed? I think it's normal to leave the doir open when not in use. It would probably also work if you had a shower curtain, so long as you always pulled it all the way closed in use.
I normally keep the door closed, but this is an elegant solution and I think I can work with this. Just gotta change my habit a bit
I would just go with special button, the most straightforward simple solution you have direct control over. Also sometimes you might need to use the shower without mood lights and then system based on humidity or water flow will just be annoyance.
If you use some tools when showering, like brush or spung, you can make a contact sensor into the hook/holder (more work, probably need a custom 3D print), but should also work and you don't need to press anything
I experimented with a humidity sensor in the shower and was surprised how quickly it spiked. It's how I woud do it: Other option would be a leak sensor in the basin but getting it to turn off at the right time would be very hard. You have a lot more control over this with a humidity sensor.
@batshit I tend to use the fact that I'm naked and wet as my cues.
I'll try but I'm not the smartest tool in the shed
How about a simple on off toggle inside your shower handle? Stupid simple and works anytime the waters turned on.
Are u nekkid, but warm, and wet? You're in the shower.
I bet you can rig up something microphone-based, there's tons of software nowadays for analyzing audio, and you don't need to run the analyzing software on the device with the microphone anyway. Though the analyzing would likely take a little bit longer that you'd want it to.
I'm using just humidity and its working great. I put the sensor away from my sink so it isn't triggered by washing my hands.
This will only consider you showering if humidity goes 9% above the 1hr average humidity:
You need a 'Statistics' Helper, call it "Average Bathroom Humidity" and base it on whatever humidity sensor you have. Make it "average linear" then set Max Age to 1 hour. (leave other options default)
Make this Template Binary Sensor called "Showering":
{{ (states('sensor.bathroom_sensor_humidity')|float - states('sensor.average_bathroom_humidity')|float) > 9 }}
This is a fun question.
I have to assume the absolute ideal would be some sort of water flow detection right in line with the shower head. Likely hard wired. But like I said, that’s an ideal.
I think the other suggestions in the thread are reasonable. The microphone one seems most appealing to me since that could theoretically just occupy an outlet anywhere in the room.
A waterflow sensor makes the most sense to me too, but it doesn't have to be inside the pipes. A microphone glued to a pipe should be able to detect the vibrations due to waterflow and hardly anything else.
Perhaps combine with a motion sensor to see if the lights should be on at all. Then the microphone only switches between modes.
You could also use the drain pipe if the actual water pipe is harder to reach. It would even work against false positives (I can clearly hear the washing machine letting in water through my water pipes)…
Oh, good point. Water flow can be loud when you are right up on the pipe. You could also keep it from picking up other noise with insulation. And the detection might not have to be that fancy then. Just amplitude.
I would use something like this to measure water usage in combination with an presence sensor in the shower stall. Water flowing + someone present in shower stall = someone taking a shower.
If you have a shower door: use a door/window sensor (on the outside). Trigger the mood light if the door was open for only a couple of seconds.
Still more complicated than hitting a switch, tho, IMHO.
Flowmeter on the shower head or down in the supply lines to the tub/shower?
I use a humidity sensor, motion sensor and a helper that shows the change over a period of time. If the humidity raises fast and goes over a certain amount (unique, depending on your room's climate) the bathroom automation changes tracks to hold the light at 100%, turn the extractor fan on, and well, how you stop the automation depends on you. I let it stay on for 15 minutes before waiting for motion. Small tips: Motion sensors typically use IR to see movement. If the room is too steamy it might struggle to see you. Also, it cannot penetrate glass. It must have a line of sight to you.
The best alt I think would be mmwave presence sensors, but they're pricy and require a wired connection.
I already have a presence sensor (Tuya) in my bathroom. Maybe I can use that + humidity sensor, everyone is saying it's faster than you expect so I'll give it a shot.
Crossposted from showerthoughts
Not sure if you have access to the pipes leading to the shower, but the droplet does what you're looking to do.
OK, assuming your switch is also smart
Option 1: long-press/double function turns on both light and fan, that triggers an "I am going to shower" 5 minute delay where a humidity sensor senses when it is over and keeps the fan on until humidity is stabilized with the rest of the house.
Option 2: get a smart flow meter instead of a smart valve. Then you have useful statistics for shower water usage in addition to an instantaneous status. This has the side effect of the mood lighting turning on "late"
Option 3: get one or make an esphome + LD2410S on battery or plugged in close by, nobody goes in the shower for more than like 10 seconds without showering
Option 4: Time of Flight sensor outside of the shower pointing in to tell when the door/curtain is closed. If the ToF sensor is (for example) between 1.1m and 1.2m, the door/curtain is closed
Thanks for the many suggestions
Option 1: long-press/double function turns on both light and fan
Main lights are automated (I also have a presence sensor in the bathroom). Fan is automated 5 minutes after a person leaves the bathroom after staying for more than 5 minutes. That said, I do have smart switches and I can add the long press functionality. But that's less automation, I will keep it as a fallback option if I can't find a true automated solution.
Option 2: get a smart flow meter instead of a smart valve.
I would love to get one, but all Zigbee ones are out of stock. If you have any recommendations, I'll be grateful
Option 3:
I have a presence sensor already, and I spend time near the shower area. Whether I'm cleaning or just soaking in the bathtub. So that can't work.
@batshit Don't you notice getting wet? ;)
Seriously though, couldn't you use a water leak sensor for this? Just make sure if it has a speaker to disconnect that, unless you like a loud beeping found when you shower.
Vibration sensor that detects when water starts flowing through the shower head
@batshit I use a derivative of a humidity sensor, it works well enough and is really simple to set up.
I would go for a simple humidity sensor. You just need to do a bit of data collection first to get a baseline of "what taking a shower usually looks like" and then based on that create the automation.
The only problem with that is that depending on how accurate you want it to be, you may have to wait a while to take a few measurements until it triggers the automation.
For something like mood lights I would just use a ZigBee switch if I'm being honest though.
Motion sensor or light switch.
There are so many variables at play here.