The lawsuit vs Google should have finished in the first 5 minutes:
Epic: Google charges very expensive to use their services
Google: we allow to side-load apps, you're not forced to use our store or our services.
You can even side load app stores.
Yup, I have F-Droid on mine, so it seems very ridiculous that this lawsuit was allowed to continue.
Nah, google goes out of it's way to throw popups to users that "it's untrusted" "it's unsafe" etc. etc... When you sideload things. Going even so far as to hide the continue button under drop downs to skip their shit.
It's just once when you're installing the thing, and considering how idiotic most users are the warnings are actually warranted in most cases.
And after updates... and sometimes mysteriously out of nowhere...
I get the stupid notice once a month or so. Especially the "This app isn't scanned by the play store! Please send us a copy"
I have never seen that. I get one popup saying that installing things from outside the store is not allowed, once you allow the app to do so, e.g. chrome if you're downloading an APK from it, I only get a confirmation to install and that's it. It never again bothers me.
Are you using some non-default android, e.g. Samsung phone? If so your problem is with Samsung, not with Google. I have a Motorola and a Pixel, both behave the same.
Are you using some non-default android, e.g. Samsung phone? If so your problem is with Samsung, not with Google. I have a Motorola and a Pixel, both behave the same.
This prompt for PLAY PROTECT, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of your device. As long as google play is installed you will get this notice for apps that it wants to scan, without your permission. But I will say it's likely I get this prompt more often because of revanced, which gets compiled on my phone directly.
Notice that there's no "Never send unknown apps". It's all dark patterns to stop people from using other sources.
First of all in my 10+ years of using Android, sideloading things, including my own compiled programs I have not once seen that popup.
Secondly, from the link you provided here's how to "Never send unknown apps":
Send unknown apps to Google If you choose to install apps from unknown sources outside of the Google Play Store, turning on the “Improve harmful app detection” setting will allow Google Play Protect to send unknown apps to Google to protect you from harmful apps.
Open the Google Play Store app Google Play.
At the top right, tap the profile icon.
Tap Play Protect and then Settings.
Turn Improve harmful app detection on or off.
Congrats? You've never seen it... So? That somehow invalidates my experience?
So you don't see the problem with have to jump through literally 4 menus worth of stuff to turn off something that could simply be on the prompt itself? That's the whole point. That google has made it hostile to sideload. Most users would be concerned about the APK, even if sourced from a legitimate place after seeing that prompt. It's literally a dark pattern. But here we are.. people like you for some ungodly reason defending the practice.
No, but you made it sound like "Android has a terrible experience side-loading" when what you should have said was "I had a bad experience side-loading on Android", your experience is not the norm and if you're going to claim that it is I can easily claim mine is as well.
Having to go through 4 menus to turn something off that hasn't triggered once in 10+ years seems acceptable. Not sure why you're getting that amount of popups, but it either has something to do with your phone, the app, or something else specific to you. This is not a common issue, I have side-loaded a bunch of things for over a decade, worked in android apps (in fact I'm currently compiling and installing an app almost daily), and worked with several people and several phones and have never seen that popup once, not saying that you're not seeing it, not saying that you're not seeing it a lot, not invalidating your experience, just pointing out that it's not common, so when you make a broad statement like:
google goes out of it's way to throw popups to users that "it's untrusted" "it's unsafe" etc. etc...
You can expect the remaining 99% of users who are not affected by whatever weird combination of factors you have that triggers this will reply that it's not common.
https://mas.to/users/M0HIT/statuses/111543437355915147
Just look at the responses here... It's funny how threads like this pop up all the time. And the default stance people take is fear because daddy google told them that it's unsafe. But right! Since you've never seen it, it affects literally nobody!
"Allow," as if it's supposed to be their call.
It's your device. Not theirs. That's what the money was for.
Fortnite firm says platform holders' hardware losses justify the need to charge devs for game sales and microtransactions
So, in other words, he's not suing them because they're not as profitable?
I feel like this really isn't going well for Epic.
Maybe the strategy is to get Google to not fight very hard in this lawsuit due to their relative lack of profit from this situation, giving Epic a higher probability of establishing precedent, which they could use in future suits.
Alternate explanation: they want to side load their store, and that's way easier on a phone/tablet vs a console. Follow the money, suing Google and Apple is way more likely to be profitable than suing Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo.
The ironic part is the one place their store is available (PC), it's such a pile of steaming crap that I don't even use it for the free games
But they can already side load their store on Android - they have done so since Fortnite first released for Android in 2017/18.
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