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President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.

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[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 98 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I thought America had the greatest army in the world and didn't want out help anyway

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When has America actually helped anyone since WW2? Korea? Kuwait? Everything else was dubious, at best; often crimes against humanity levels of imperialism, corruption, and war crimes.

Most of the cold war was so tense and dangerous because they considered everything other than capitalism — regardless of any populations democratic will and self-determination — an existential threat that warrants warfare and mass murder.

I think the cold war was less about ideology about economic systems and more about alignment with the Soviet Union.

There was plenty of eurocommunism and social democracy in Europe that wasn't commented on by the US. Relations with the PRC were normalized in the 1970s after the 1961 sino-soviet split.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also, from what he's said previously, apparently we already won the war?

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Pete's Warriors just need a little bit of help. Warriors ask for help don't they?

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[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The fool doesn't understand that any "joint military action" will trigger WW3

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's the intent of whoever is telling Trump what to do.

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

then THAT "whoever" is a fool. A world war is pretty much the end of the gravy train. They're dumb if they think they will come out on top.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 29 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You seem pretty confident in that despite the fact that large scale wars have made the current players in this war rich and powerful in the first place.

Look at the outcomes of WWII. The US and Russia emerge as superpowers. Hell, it's the only reason Israel even exists.

Wars exist because they benefit the ruling class.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, it's the only reason Israel even exists.

This is an understandably common view, but it's not true. The only fundamental change WWII brought to Palestine was weakening the British Empire; Zionists, partially due to British support, were by far the ascendant group in Palestine as early as 1939, so Israel was going to appear as soon as the British left Palestine. Zionist wealth and diplomacy, Arab weakness and division, Western colonial ambitions and British colonial policy made something resembling the current situation inevitable with or without WWII.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Does anyone remember when Zionists bombed a ship full of Jewish refugees in 1940 (SS Patria Disaster) and Palestinians helped save victims from the water and then many were forced out of their homes 8 years later by Zionists?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You need to understand that there is a real faction within the already heinous Nationalist Christians that are even more truly batshit insane than their already crazy baseline, who are genuinely doing their level best to bring about the biblical end times - which, of course just means a nuclear holocaust for everyone. This is not hyperbole. There are people who are actually pushing for that outcome who are part of our regime right now.

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They want the world to end, so Jesus will come.

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The moment anyone else moves to assist he will simply bail out and walk away. He was actually dumb enough to say that out loud too. It would be strategically stupid and politically suicidal for anyone else to get involved.

[–] Marcomunista@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, great, let us know if you need a hand dismantling U.S. bases in Europe

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Or like in Afghanistan, just leave everything behind and gtfo.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

The only country in NATO to invoke the defence retaliation clause in 60 years is the US, following SEP 11.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

They never were. We were there for them though. There's only one NATO country who used NATO article 5 "an attack against one is an attack against all": the US after 9/11. And the rest came to their aid.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago

The word "allies" means people who work together for a common goal. When Trump made up his own goals (e.g., tariffs, wars), he got rid of those. So there's nothing to ally around.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Draft dodging pedophile says what?

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh no! Anyways…..

Trump speed running making the US irrelevant again.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 16 points 2 weeks ago

I thought he didn't need help? Never shuts up about how much he's winning.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago
[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was the US there to help them before?

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[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They never were. For decades the US has only been in NATO for it's own enrichment and it's own defence. The ballistic early warning radar that the US have in the UK aren't of any use to us, flight times from Russia are so short that we'd not be able to react. But they do give the US a significant amount of time to be warned of inbound nukes and to do something about it for them.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

At least we have time to react when Trump sends the nukes. :)

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why don't they just ask their best buddy Israel to step up their game?

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[–] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

I find it helpful to picture Zoidberg whenever Trump opens his mouth.

[–] Foni@piefed.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

We don't need your help, we are satisfied that YOU DO NOT BREAK THE FUCKING PLANET AND THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

kthxbye, asshole.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

The problem, you vainglorious asshole, is that you wouldn't have been anyway and everyone has realized that. And now that you've pissed away all of America's good will you have no leverage.

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What a fucking child. Your president, america!

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The usa will be there to help in the future, once trump is dead and gone, but only if there is anything left of it after trump and his cronies suck it dry.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is the views that got Trump elected will still be there in the country for the foreseeable future. So ultimately the USA is not a reliable member of NATO at any point since Trump was first elected. The USA is no longer a member they just haven't changed the treaties yet. That won't be going back at any point in the lifetime of anyone who lived through the Trump era.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats will be there to serve Israel once Trump is gone.

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[–] dellish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not convinced help would have been forthcoming had it been required, so ummm, ok I guess. Whatever.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

as his russian and israeli handlers commanded.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

The world needs to cut the US out entirely for the foreseeable future.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When was it ever? Since WWII, what has the US done for Europe?

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This guy is like a cartoon villain.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Is the US not there or is Trump not there? He’s pretty old and not that healthy. Sooner or later someone more pragmatic will be in the chair.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mofo should go pound sand. What an ass.

Putin is all too happy seeing this happening.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think we've passed the power and control issues. We've long since left ideologies behind. What is unfolding now is a choice between good and evil (or law versus lawlessness).

[–] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

it would be good to see him get impressed or politically neutered or both or other things

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