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Serious question: if they are a myth, why the need to ban trans people from anything?
I hereby ban dragons from Starbucks! And the bank! And from driving! Muahaha, I’m so fucking evil!!
Their logic, such as it is, is that since trans people don't exist, anybody in the "wrong" bathroom is there for nefarious reasons.
It's false to anybody with a brain, because trans people do exist. In fact, even if you think gender dysphoria and trans identity are not how they're commonly described, harsh punishments for using the "wrong" bathroom still don't make sense, because the logical conclusion would be that those people are misguided or deluded, not predatory.
Still, it behooves us all to understand the emotional reasoning behind gender-segregated bathrooms: in most cultures (at least Western ones, but I think it goes further) there is a deep-seated idea that certain things are wrong if done in the presence of people of the other gender. Cultures with very different attitudes to nudity, for example, still have gender-segregated baths and saunas. I don't think there's any logical reason for this, but people (especially conservatives) feel the need to preserve it: the idea of gender-neutral bathrooms is crazy to them.
What, then, do you do with people who say their gender is other than what you, the dominant culture, say it is? Do you let them use the bathroom/shower/sauna they say they should? But then ANYONE could say their gender is different, and you wouldn't have gender segregation at all! Oh no!
And actually, I agree with this. I think if you're going to let people pick which bathroom they use according to their self-identification, gender segregated bathrooms are pointless, so we should get rid of them. Of course, this is not a popular view even among moderate left-wingers in Western countries, never mind Republicans, so we have this stupid culture war.
That's The thing i was asking myself too.
Thank you very much for banning me. Now I can go finally touch grass and not read the Internet and fascist going ons.
Is the wording in this really that trans people can't use certain bathrooms, or that people must use the bathroom that aligns with their sex?
Honestly, as a trans woman that doesn’t pass, there’s fewer than ten states where I feel comfortable existing.
Give yourself credit for bravery, fortitude and resiliency. As a hetero white cis male, there are zero states I feel comfortable existing in.
Bravery doesn't mean much when I just wanna exist without the federal government throwing its full weight against me, while riling up lone wolves and poisoning any sort of discussion and thought process among the public.
Respectfully disagree. It means everything. It is an unfair burden for you to bear, but your existence is a beacon of light for everyone who struggles with acceptance of diversity and seeks basic human rights. You are not alone.
No such thing as doesn’t pass. You tell me you’re a woman? Who the fuck am I to question what you feel in your bones? In the spirit of the republicans making shit up to disenfranchise, I hereby declare that you pass. As whatever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want to.
I will even print you a pass.
In Oregon, today, in a performing theater of all places, as I entered the vestibule of the women's restroom, some old lady said "are you sure this is the men's room? Wanna go check the sign once again?"
So that fucked with my whole day.
I thought I looked good, looked stylish. 13 years of HRT is not enough apparently.
There's pictures of me on my userinfo page.
That picture of you is fucking stylish.
That is fucked up, and it’s absolutely shitty that you had to deal with that. My parents are the same sort of people. ( which is part of why I don’t talk to them).
You need to know: if it wasn’t this, they would still find a way to be cunts. Trans is seen as an easy target, particularly with the republicans in power. If it wasn’t this, there would be something.
This is the hard part: they want you to feel bad. It is their sole purpose in interacting with you. How you feel, only you have control over.
I tend to brutal rudeness when interacting with people like this, using language they don’t tolerate, and being personal about it.
That won’t work for everyone, and be mindful that law enforcement will back granny sour cunt over you, but be rude, be loud, embarrass them, because that’s what they are trying to do to you
I live in Idaho and guarantee this will be used by chucklefucks to not only harass trans people, but cis women who don’t fit their standard of beauty and effeminate cis men. Not that they don’t already, but now they can really fuck with someone by calling the cops and disrupting the person’s day rather than just snide comments.
Remember when you could get in a car with your mother/wife/sister/girlfriend/daughter/neice/grandma/aunt and drive across the country and they'd have the same human rights from sea to shining sea and now they gain and lose basic human rights as they cross state borders?
Yeah, Republicans did that. They are traitors and the enemy of the American people.
If they're a myth, why make a law against a supposed myth? Oh, it's a talking point of you wanting to make them a myth. Republicans are a myth.
I appreciate the sarcasm, but their actual "thought process" (yes, that belongs in quotes) goes something like this:
To put it simply, because they don't think trans people exist, a person using the wrong gendered bathroom is there to sexually assault people.
Because signs apparently stop rapists.
Which is weird, because people like them are statistically far more likely to commit sexual assault than trans people or drag Queens.
I guess it's yet another example of right wing projection.
So many headlines over the past year are things I remember seeing out of China and Russia over the past decade
Russian politicians claim the same thing about gays. I believe it was in Chechnya
If they are passing legislation for things they believe are a myth, then when is the anti-bigfoot legislation coming? What about Chupacabra leash laws? Vampire curfew? Ghost noise ordinances?
My point is, I guess, that people typically don't pass laws against things they think aren't real in the first place.
Intelligence in Republicans is a Myth.
I could see the vigilante justice response to this would be the theft of gender labeled bathroom signs. It then becomes a 50/50 gamble whether any human that needs to empty their bladder goes to prison for 5 years. Even just opening the door to see if there are urinals or stalls-only should run afoul of this law. Bonus points for activists following lawmakers that voted for this when the lawmaker needs to use a bathroom in an unfamiliar place.
The vigilante move is to protect your trans homies by taking out the cop who is trying to arrest someone for being fuckin trans.
If trans people are a myth then the law is made up.
My first thought! Okay they are a myth so what’s the point of your bill?
You legislating against Bigfoot?
No?
Washington has a law against hunting Bigfoot (but this is to keep people from shooting other people "accidentally" who may or may not be dressed as Bigfoot)
Reading through the bill, they use the term "biological sex" without defining it
What amateurs are writing these laws? Not even defining terms? I get the vagueness of it is the point, but there are a lot of edge cases that will be in limbo from this
AI, probably. Thats how they determined what grants to cut, after all.
I just wish I was allowed to live as an equal in peace as I feel fit to live.
I hope each of those who voted this way never is able to use a public restroom again
IDK about y'all, but in that scenario, I'd just shoot the cop.
Dead cops can't arrest anyone, trans or not.
Another reason to avoid Idaho.
Not that I needed one.
How do they enforce this? Without checking people gentiles? I seen plenty of trans men that look more manly then me.
The goal is not to have a proper rule, it's to hurt people, and to have additional thing they pin on people they hate.
https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart
They don’t care if you’re trans or not. It’s to punish people for not conforming.
I'm questioning more often why gendered restrooms even exist.
I wouldn't want to go in an extreme bathroom anyway. Sounds gross.
If the law said I don't exists I would go and rob a bank instead.... Nobody would believe them
How far away are we from gay people just being stoned to death in public in the US?
Like, October?
Idk i dont understand how real people that are alive ans you can talk to them are a myth. Like they're gonna throw myths in prison?? It makes zero sense.