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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9183854
Actually, the other side mostly wants things to stay the same. Their constituents, on the other hand, would like to see better healthcare, education, unions, and stronger safety nets. But since the other side aren’t fascists, their voters are stuck with them.
This right here ☝️. The grassroots democrats I could support. It's the Chuck Schumers and John Fettermans that will undermine the party from within that make supporting democrats difficult.
Why haven't the democrats kicked out Fetterman?
Rotating villain. He allows them to tell their constituents "we want what you want, we just don't have the power because of thay one guy, but if you vote just a little harder, we won't pull the football away", while telling their donors "we ain't giving them shit lmao".
How would that work, exactly?
PA senators are not subject to recalls, so it's out of the hands of the voters. He could technically be impeached and removed from office by the Senate itself... but for what, exactly? It's not illegal to vote a certain way, even if it's against the wishes of your constituency.
And even if Fetterman were somehow removed, PA is an extremely competitive state. Remember, he won against Doctor fucking Oz, so the chance of someone even worse coming in to replace him is quite high. The devil you know, etc etc...
Best case scenario is that he gets primaried into irrelevance in 2028 by someone with actual integrity. But even then, I'm not holding my breath...
How would that work, exactly?
You pull all of his committee assignments and neuter his value to lobbyists. If all he has is his vote on the legislation that hits the floor, he can't do much and it will hurt him both financially and politically, because if you don't have value to lobbyists they won't send you "gifts".
You attack him personally and threaten his business or personal connections. For example, if Dems wanted to pull Manchin in line, for example, they could have sent the DoJ after his daughter for price gouging consumers on pharmaceuticals.
And yes, while it doesn't matter now, you make sure he knows he'll be primaried out and smeared like yesterday's dog shit. Character assassination is effective and could bring someone in line, especially when they're enthusiastically supporting genocide and Israel's popularity is in the shitter.
That's how.
They've never been powerless. They're just complicit.
There's always a rotating villain.
Used to be Dianne Feinstein. Then it was Joe Manchin. Then it was that Sinema bitch. Now it's Fetterman and Schumer.
And people just kind of ignore the pattern and pretend it isn't a party-wide PR strategy.
Correction: They SAY they want health care and education, get elected, and then spend their political capital making most people poorer, doing fascism, and genociding.
To be honest what I really want is fully automated luxury gay space communism.
Fully luxury automated gay space Communism. That way the abbreviation becomes almost an acronym. FLAGSC, rather than FALGSC
They won't give us that either.
That's fine, we'll give it to them for free.
Equal? Universal healthcare is derided as the delusions of radical extremists. A mere pipedream of anti-semitic tankies, if we're talking the gambit of American media.
The democrats had the house, senate, and presidency for 4+ years. Where is that Healthcare?
Spoiler: Both sides are bad, they both get paid off. Its just that one side is really fucking honest with you right now ... to the point where they commit crimes in public because no one will do anything about it.
The media is just a billionaire propaganda machine. They have to make both sides sound equally right so both sides keep fighting each other instead of fighting the billionaires causing all the problems.
the media is owned by private individuals with their own agenda.
No, the media doesn't think that, the owners of the media wants the media to say that they're equal
We need to keep repeating this, it's a CLASS war.
It's always been a class war. Sometimes we do some of the fighting but the rich are always fighting.
the "media" doesn't "think" they all just push their agenda
It’s wild how often both sides gets used to blur real differences.
So foolish to think this way.
The longer we sit here and make it about the "other" is another day/year/decade that these people play us and stay in power.
A lot of world class dipshits on this very platform think both sides are equal. Getting pretty tired of reading
"Both sides are fascist, one's just more open about it."
Stupidest fucking sentiment I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Absolute lack of education and critical thinking skills to say shit like that.
The two sides are the people and the state, right? ... right?