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Cross post this to lemmy.ml you coward. I double dare you lol

Now the question is which is easier, convincing millions of people to vote for “anyone not a republican” or convincing a candidate to be more than “not republican”

If you are form the US, you are having your primaries by now.

Those are the ones where good people appear and need your vote to stay on the race. Go participate there, instead of complaining about the main election.

I want to preface this by saying that I do vote in every election, and I think everyone should exercise their right to vote.

That being said, both parties are bad. We're in a class war, and the Democrats are just as beholden/part of the oligarchy as the Republicans are.

The Republicans are definitely worse than the Democrats. There's no question there, but what we really need is a fucking revolution.

"But they'll steal the elections!!!!!"

Oh yeah? Just like all those state and special elections they've been losing by double-digit electorate shifts for the last 18 months? Including the one covering FUCKING MAR-A-LAGO???

Grow the fuck up. Get registered to vote, and when elections come round, VOTE, DAMN IT. Fascism only wins if you just give up and let it.

They'll try to shove you off the platform with constant negativity and trying to act like Trump is just a continuation of all the same. If you didn't care before, why do you care now?

It's not. It's different.

both sides are pretty bad, but you still gotta get on the bus

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you dumb fuck Americans should have voted for Vermin Supreme.

I mean, both sides DO suck. But the decision being made boils down to which side you think has the best chance of leading to an eventual outcome that doesn't suck. I'm not voting for a party I like, because frankly that doesn't exist as a viable option, but I'm not going to not vote just because neither side is better than a 3/10. I'd rather the 3/10 than the 1/10.

I think there's real value in being honest about your feelings. The people who represent us need to know we think they suck. The people around us need to feel like others have the same struggles we do. The space for nuance does exist.

One should vote, it simply shouldn't be the end of it.

If you voted Democrat and thought you made your part, wrong. You barely made one shift towards one slightly less terrible group. This is not victory. A part of what you should do, yes. All you should do - not.

Imagine the hammer is the polling box and all your solutions look like voting when see all your problems as nails.

Everyone should vote. Absolutely. Go out, do it, cast that ballot.

Voting won’t solve all of our problems. We need to go beyond just voting.

Your frequent reminder from the local queer, leftist furry that if "voting didn't work," Republicans and billionaires wouldn't spend billions of dollars on voter suppression and propaganda telling you that your vote doesn't matter.

Do your part, waste billionaire money by voting anyway, by any means necessary~

I refuse to stop shit talking democrats, if they weren't absolutely complicit warmongers we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

One of Propagandas goals is to get you to give up. Uncovering truths and doing research is hard according to Josh Johnson, if it was easy more of us would do it instead of watching memes. Propaganda is designed to flood you with so much crap that you question everything and then give up looking for the truth because its hard. Ai has not helped this.

https://youtu.be/srr0rRgF2Fw

To only have two sides is the problem.

A lack of good options in the general is a sign of poor turnout in primaries.

Dear Americans, voting for Democrats will get you nowhere, too. I know this is hard, but you will have to start a revolution or vote for a third party in an unprecedented coordinated effort.

People deserve to vote for someone they actually support, not the least terrible option.

Stop blaming the voters.

Damn you really blame people for not choosing between Moloch or Baal.

I like how people here are trying to have a discussion of whether or not voting third party, or voting at all, is necessary when there are currently concerns (and investigations) of Trump and the Epstein class rigging this last election in the first place. I should also remind everyone that there were similar concerns when Bush first got elected back in 2000. How sure are we that we can rely on voting if that is indeed true?

Furthermore-- I voted for Harris, but I am fucking sick and tired of voting for Democrats. Fucking sick and tired! They are fucking useless. I voted Democrat these last four presidential elections and it is these Democrats and the party as a whole who helped usher in Trump. It has done nothing but cause problems. Biden carved the pathway for both Trump and Netanyahu to carry on the genocide in Palestine and now in Lebanon. He helped the Israeli government go on this psychotic imperialistic crusade against others like Iran and very soon Cuba. And Greenland. Harris vowed that she would continuing working with the Israeli government if she was elected, and she vowed to have the ICE budget expanded also. Both sides ARE fucking bad. Democrats have done jack shit to try to impeach Trump or 25th amendment him so far despite the child sex trafficking through ICE arrests, nor the outright kidnapping and murders of American citizens on the streets and in ICE encampments. Nor for kidnapping leaders of other countries. The list goes on. Just impeachment alone.

Most Democrat congressmen are financed by AIPAC just like the Republicans. Whether anyone is liking or not, the Democrats are 1,000% enabling the Republicans, and even if Harris won this last election, we will be dealing with the potentiality that the Republicans would come back in full force by mid-terms or general elections anyway.

I understand that voting blue no matter who is a way for people to feel as though they are doing something. I still encourage voting. But voting blue no matter who, no matter how bad or how mediocre the candidate is, is clearly not working at all.

No, the point is to agitate you against an establishment that wants to prevent you from having a better choice.

Liberals who are passionately defending lesser evil electoralism before primaries have even started are either idiots in denial or moderates who don't want to talk about why their party is nearly as unpopular as Trump.

If you have a problem with the truth, that's a you problem. You can disagree with a course of action, but if truthful criticism of Dear Leader makes someone The Enemy to you, you're much closer to fascists than you'd like to admit.

“Literally the only way”? They tried violent treason and have refused to swear in duly elected reps that are not of their party. If you think they’ll leave when their term is up just because you voted someone else in… the major players aren’t going anywhere. These aren’t the kind of people that gain power and then let it go. Don’t not vote, but don’t believe that’s how we’re getting out of this mess.

And scolding people for criticizing Democrats as "both-siders" means you like your fascism with less overt racism.

As an American that's never not voted, I don't understand these fucking assholes.

Genuinely... Fuck them. We're fucked because of the people that don't vote, not because of the minority of insane MAGA's.

The winner of our last presidential election was actually "didn't vote".

Try your hardest to create a new party the day after election day. If it fails, vote Democrat and start trying again the next day.

You have no idea how strongly and passionately I wish to see the day that you guys get a proper multi-party system. What you have right now is super fucked up.

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

EDIT: Also, yes, Trump and GOP are definitely trying to downright rig elections and that can't be ignored, of course

That doesn't negate the fact that both parties are, in fact, bad.

Americans are truly a lost cause if they still think voting will get them out of this.

You need to organize yesterday and actively resist in a militant way paving the way for real democratic institutions by and for the people. Yet you still fail to see that the whole system is designed to keep you ignorant, enjoying the bread and circuses until you get to make a vote that changes absolutely nothing every 4 years and then go home satisfied that you practiced your democratic rights under capitalism. And you also fail to realize the severity of the situation you're in, any other country would be rioting right now but you're out there filming shit with the hope that some magic entity will step in and save you, or complaining about it on the internet.

Wake the fuck up Americans, for the sake of the rest of the world and yourselves as well.

If you don't vote then you don't get to complain until the next election.

You refused to have a say and now you have to live with the consequences. No bitching.

And you should do that in all elections. Small and big.

There's a lot that goes into the choice of a President, starting way upstream from the actual Presidential vote - after all, there are 340 million of Americans who could be President, so clearly there is a lot of choosing going on outside the actual vote to trim that down, otherwise the Presidential election vote would have a lot more than just 2 real options.

Sadly a lot of Americans seem to have been brainwashed into a sort of learned blindness were they think of the actual election vote as the entirety of the choice, not really pondering on the rest of choosing that must be going on to go from 340 million possibilities to 2.

Posts like this one are elements of the very propaganda used to convince Americans that their only power as citizens is in that one single moment were somebody else already trimmed 340 million down to 2 and a loud spectacle is made of them having the choice of 1 out of those preselected 2.

If one doesn't allow oneself to be swindled into such a reductive view of Democratic choice in America, it becomes pretty obvious that the vote itself does very little of the choosing and that have more of the choice one has to at minimum participate in Primaries, better yet do things like campaigning, even better be part of civil society groups, go on demonstrations and even distribute pamphlets and put up posters denouncing the actions of the worst politicians (such as getting money from AIPAC).

People who genuinely want to improve the way America is run wouldn't relentlessly try to artificial reduce the view that others have of the process down to the smallest and least mathematically significant part of it.

That most people being brainwashed into thinking that selecting between the last 2 is all that matters massively helps those doing the biggest and most obscure part of the choosing to retain said power and not be questioned for it, probably explains why the Propaganda pushing for the hyper-reductive take on the choosing of a President is so relentless and intense.