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[–] ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 113 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 108 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Do not connect your tv to the internet. Period.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm suffering for that right now. Sony Bravia.

Firstly, I didn't want to buy a smart TV, but that's pretty much all that's sold anymore. I also didn't intend to connect it to the internet, but a well-meaning guest wanted to watch TV at night, and thought he was troubleshooting, not realizing he was in the TV menu and not the streaming box.

The TV updated, and IMMEDIATELY got worse. Formerly, if I turned it on, it would go straight to the streaming box. Great! As shitty updates do, it changed the settings, and would instead open to the TV's menu, so it could advertise streaming services. It also forgot that the TV input is HDMI 1. It became strictly worse, in the rare edge case of every fucking time you turn it on.

I don't trust it to not automatically connect, or to forget my login credentials, so I go to do a factory reset. It's literally an option in a menu. The TV gets stuck in a boot loop. Talking to support, they think it broke the mainboard. A factory reset bricked the TV.

It's under warranty, but this is fucking crazy. NEVER connect your TV directly to the internet.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

This is the way.

HTPC for life!

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Walmart acquired Vizio with the express purpose of of using TV's to serve ads. In fact, that is exactly what they said they were going to do.

No surprises here.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Don't plug in a Ethernet cord, and don't connect it to Wifi.

Now you have a fully functional TV screen that wont be artificially bricked with OS updates.

Get a dedicated "streaming device" like a Nvidia Sheild, Android TV, Apple TV, or Roku and you are good to go.

Don't buy the product. Don't give them the sale.

Televisions aren't mandatory, you can do without.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Until the next one refuses to even pass through HDMI if it's not connected.

Just don't buy shitty devices.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My dedicated media PC is the new Atari VCS. It works awesome and I can boot into Atari os for some light gaming too. Or emulate anything up to ps2.

Disabled all the smart TV bs and told the SO we dont use that anymore, 0 complaints so far. They're also learning some Linux because of it!

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[–] SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like the trash taking itself out, no? If I don't want smart features in the first place, then I see this as an absolute win. Nobody should be connecting their TV the Internet in the first place. Always make sure to use things like android TV boxes, fire sticks ect.. over using the built in "smart" features as those TVs will be phoning home all day and serving you ads the minute you connect it to the Internet lol

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My family stayed at my house and “the TV wasn’t working,” because it doesn’t have network access and I use an Nvidia Shield instead, so they connected it to the Wi-Fi and ad overlays showed up in the menus! I’m still mad about it years later.

Luckily I dodged a bullet and it didn’t brick it or anything, and the ads went away when the internet access did. I just disconnected it from the network and manually banned the MAC address in case anyone else tries it again.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Just build a media pc. Those media sticks have trackers and telemetry too.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And if I don't want to use their smart features?

this seems like it might be a win

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Roku is every bit as bad. They bricked all customer's previously purchased TVs by implementing a new user agreement through their UI without warning. It couuld not be bypassed. Opting out required first opting in, agreeing to those new terms and then mailing a letter within a very short window with explicit, detailed requirements.

My next TV won't be connected to the Internet and definitely won't be a Roku or Visio product.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Does the TV work as a screen if you factory reset it then never reconnect it to the internet?

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So Vizio is offering dumb TVs without Walmart accounts? I am actually kind of interested.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vizio is likely offering unusually large paperweights without Walmart accounts.

now require a Walmart account for setup and accessing smart TV features

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

In a functioning society I think that would be criminal.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

it'll still be listening and spying.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago

Welcome to Earth where using Smart features is Dumb.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

– George Orwell

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I just use my PC through my TV.

Also don't buy tvs with voice activation.

That means they have mics on 24/7.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is how you get me to never buy a Vizio TV.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd be better off buying a non-smart Samsung commercial TV from eBay and getting a $20 Onn 4K TV Box from Walmart. The latter can be Degoogled and sideloaded with Stremio, Cloudstream, or your streaming app of choice to make it the ultimate privacy-respecting media center.

[–] sunnytimes@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

side note . if you like stremio try nuvio . it works 10x better for me . looks like a fork.

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago

TVs are screens or privacy nightmares. You get to choose as the consumer.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

My mini pc or laptop connected via HDMI to a projector setup makes me more happy every day when I see crap like this. Bonus is you can move it to the patio for outside movie night and it's a whopping five pounds. Same goes for moving apartments because I've always moved too often.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

good. maybe people will stop buying them then.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 10 points 2 weeks ago

Excellent News ! Finally, an easy way to disable every smart feature !

[–] db2@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So Vizio is a donmart brand? I wish they'd make up their minds.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Nearly every electronic device sold at Walmart is a unique SKU sold nowhere else.

They have their own internal logistics and manufacturing specialist team that works with manufacturers to hit specific wholesale price targets that they demand to even consider carrying their products in store. They reduce the number of ports, features, included accessories, quality of materials, etc. to get the that specific price.

The manufacturers take a huge hit on their own profits from these... but in theory will make up for that with sheer sales quantity.

Requiring a Walmart account probably means some sort of kickback to Vizio, or other wholesale arrangement. And since these devices are usually unique SKUs that can't be sold elsewhere, they can receive differentiated software, have no risk of any sort of price matching, etc.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is fine IMO, because you shouldn't use the smart features in the first place. Just get a 3rd party streaming box. The ONN one is like $25. (Or if you're a giant nerd hook your computer to your TV.)

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[–] Monkey@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

You should suggest this as an article on the Consumer Rights Wiki

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Joke's on them, I don't want any of the smart features

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Its been so long since ive had or bought a tv, what are the brands that are the least shitty now? I used to always be a samsung everything kinda guy but fuck them now. I wish they never started fucking around with software and stuck to just hardware. Their products from strictly the hardware side are still excellent. My zfold7 is amazing the older gens started rickety but each version i got (so the 3, the 5 and the 7) has been a respectible improvement but the 7 really stepped up the quality. The last samsung tv i got was like 65" curved screen amazing picture but the fucking interface was pure cancer and i will not buy another. My samsung 4k monitors, non-smart normal fridge, and my equally as dumb oven are great and dont have any stupid shit so Ill buy more dumb samsung products lol.

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I use a TV for my monitor - last job I worked I really needed the screen real estate for excel.

I hate hate hate when I shut the computer off or power goes off and when the TV comes back on, it auto-plays some "free" streaming channel, which is ALWAYS fascist propaganda. I rush to turn that shit off just as quickly as I can. Fuck that shit.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

so don't make an account and it's a normal tv?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My first two questions when buying a tv is

How many HDMIs does it have? Where are they located?

Last question, How to disable most features?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

WTF? And Walmart of all things. Fuuuuuck them.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm tempted to go back to htpc lol. The tracking is so bad these days. I need to block the mac of my tv (Google tv) and just do a tiny PC or something instead.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think I prefer my 14 inch CRT

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I used to prefer CRTs too... And then I got an OLED. Nothing else comes close, not even the best CRTs. Especially if it's got quantum dots in combination with OLED.

Given that input lag was already solved five years ago, really the only advantage CRTs still have left is their ability to look great at non-native resolutions. But upscaling filters like HQX/xBR for retro games, and DLSS/FSR for modern titles, have all but completely eliminated that last remaining advantage. These filters are really good at upscaling lower resolution content to fit your display's pixels. Hell, DLSS is so good that it looks better than native 4K.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

I have an extremely expensive smart TV that probably cost around £4,000 (I didn't buy it so I don't know what the actual price tag was) and it's UI is awful because of stuff like this and it's all stupid. It has an app, it's a TV, I already have a method of controlling it why do I need an app?

As a result it's purely a media streaming platform I don't use any of its smart features. It's just hoocked up to a mini PC and it's just been a display.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My "big" TV is a dumb 55" Toshiba I bought in 2012. It works just fine plugged into my computer to display VLC. I don't need anything else. I don't bother with Jellyfin anymore, because all I do is "acquire" the content, watch it immediately, and delete it. I don't keep anything apart from a few old movies, because I don't rewatch anything.

Tonight I'm watching the next episode of Survivors, a BBC series from 1975.

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