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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 30 points 1 day ago

One ATC at LaGuardia. Insanity.

ATC may have made a mistake here but the failure is clearly understaffing.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Such a shame, not much those pilots could have done.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The pilot slammed the brakes, likely saving hundreds of lives. There was a woman on the cockpit jumpseat who was ejected 320 feet in front of the cockpit and she survived. You can see it.

This is 100% on Elon Musk and BigBalls.

Also.. what genius makes a video of a screen in portrait mode?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm otl. What does this have to do with musk, and who is bigballs? Did musk make atc cuts or something?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

did you miss 2025? Guy pissing himself on ketamine doing gods work?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware of who musk is. Maybe I missed the year or deleted from my memory, but I'm asking what he has to do with this horrific accident since you blame him and "bigballs", who you still haven't answered who that is... Is musk bigballs?

[–] sulgoth@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Big ball’s is the pen name of one of musks employees during the DOGE days of tearing apart the government. The reason this can be attributed to him is because he fired a large chunk of various branches of government including air traffic controllers. Some got hired back but let’s be real, ATCs were already understaffed before musk.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Air Canada should cease all US operations. The US is unsafe.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

But how will Fat Fucks in Flip Flops get their much needed vacations?

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Canadians should cease all US operations. The US is unsafe.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

The US should cease all operations. The US is undafe.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago

If people stop taking their flights, they will stop flying.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So it was either a lapse with the ATC or the driver of the firetruck didn’t have clearance to cross.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

ATC gave the go ahead for the truck and then seconds later said stop (ten times). The ATC later said they messed up. It’s a high stress job and I feel sorry for them; they made a mistake and will live with the guilt for their life.

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

apparently they were the only ATC on at that time.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if you have clearance you should probably still double check. I wanna be clear and say I'm not blaming the driver, I'm just saying that you put a lot of trust into ATC but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have your own checks. I'm just saying this as advice to anyone that works a dangerous job.

When I took classes on OSHA and MSHA the teacher would always go through incident reports and fatalities whenever certain things come up. 8/10 times those involved in fatalities were those with years or even decades of experience. When you get too comfortable with your routine you get complacent. We all do it. Even when our job isn't high stress or dangerous. It's a good idea to remind yourself every now and again to pay attention and not get too comfortable.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know I’d probably check left, right before crossing an intersection, but I’m not sure I’d check up.

The plane was reportedly doing about 40kph; I think that would suggest to me that it was already on the ground when the truck started crossing. Perhaps that’s why the ATC forgot about it.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

There's no way in hell the plane was doing 40kph. That looks closer to 100mph.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that sucks. This was the best audio i could find of ATC (sorry for IG link) and seems like they immediately realized the fuck up, but the truck kept going.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I don’t think it even registered at first for the truck that they were being told to stop because he’d just told the Frontier plane to stop

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ATC gave clearance, and then immediately realized and told them to stop like 10 times.

That being said, any vehicle crossing the runway is required to verify physical clearance before crossing active runways for this exact reason.

A landing plane is bright as fuck, even after they're on the ground. Those landing lights are like little suns because of what they need to illuminate for the aircraft at a distance.

That driver clearly didn't even attempt to check the runway before heading out.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah... ATC fucked up but the truck driver did NOT look both ways before crossing the street.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

He trusted ATC that he had a clear path and was focused on another emergency.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

I've driven around air side at an airport a couple of times, it's not always immediately obvious if there's a plane landing even during the day, especially If you aren't particularly familiar with aircraft, even during the day.

This was at night, the driver was given the all clear, and there was an emergency they needed to get to quickly. So even if the driver looked to see if it were clear, being dark, all he would see is a bunch of lights in the sky. It would have needed more than a quick glance to see if the lights were of a landing plane or a plane that was just taking off, or even lights from a plane at all.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Worst five seconds of those pilots lives

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And last, as both pilots died

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very likely what they said too.