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Surge in Systemd forks after the latest changes (github.com)
submitted 20 hours ago by pglpm@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/62192988

The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren't necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days ("surge" because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

The reaction by definition is unproductive. I think Brodie Robertson did a good job covering this the other day.

It's literally an addition of an optional text field in a collection of already optional and often unfilled text fields. In a small part of the systemD suite. UserD, with no checking or enforcement. Which has value in business and corporate environments. In the form of a pull request from an external, unaffiliated coder.

Regardless of where you stand on metas push for age-gating everything so they don't have to. Which if you aren't against it, you're a fool. This is all way more reactionary and less substantive than the valid sysV vs systemD debate.

[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

While we're at it, we could add a race and sexual orientation field, this could have value for business in some countries!

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago

I wonder how many people freaking out over this field have even looked at what other fields are on that user record. The realName field could be used to dox you! ICE and the CIA are interested in your location! Those fields have about the same level of enforcement as the new one, i.e. you can just lie.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

It's traditional:

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

I’ve seen less complex taxonomic trees!

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait, your telling me that systems has a user thing to log user data?

Where does systemd start and end? As it looks to be way too invasive

[–] Laser@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

Debian systems have optionally collected this kind of data way before systemd existed via adduser.