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«¿Cuántas naciones ha bombardeado USA desde 2001?» (Infografía: Al Jazeera)

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

they and UK are largely responsible for Irans current regime too.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

This seems like a lot, I get it. But if you did a bar graph of US school shootings each of those years, it would seem like a lot less.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Who says republicans and democrats can’t agree?

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

Deep down, they are all american and share the same values: bomb brown people for profit.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 15 hours ago

I love bipartisanship

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

USA loves to bomb brown people. Got it 👍🏼.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

should replace the "as American as apple pie" => "As American as bombing brown children"

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 hours ago

And "as American as school shootings".

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats and republicans differ only in that the democrats don’t openly attack minorities in their own country.

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

So, about that:

Human rights watch letter to Joe biden

We write to express outrage over your administration’s expansion of the cruel and unnecessary immigration detention system. Last month, you signed a spending bill that provides historically high funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention - $3.4 billion in taxpayers’ money. Our organizations work with and advocate on behalf of people who have experienced immigration detention. They carry life long scars from the mistreatment and dehumanization they endured because of the United States’ reliance on detention, mostly through private prisons and county jails. Your administration is further entrenching this reliance, marking an utter betrayal of your campaign promises.

[...]

The system your administration is expanding is riddled with abuse and impunity. Your senior officials have been aware of these significant human rights concerns since day one. ICE’s jails and prisons operate under insufficient standards with inspections that are notorious for covering up deficiencies. Inadequate medical care results in deaths; LGBTQ individuals in custody suffer homophobic and transphobic harassment and abuse; basic sanitation is often lacking; Black immigrants face unaffordable bonds and violence at disparately high rates; and ICE’s use of solitary confinement regularly meets the United Nations’ definition of torture.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Emphasis on openly. Obama admin continued or put in place the framework that Trump is now abusing. Biden continued it. They’re all rotten.

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

They weren't doing it secretly? I suppose they weren't bragging about torturing LGBT+ people either, but it's not like this stuff was unknown.

"They're all rotten" +1

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Americans suck. Change my mind.

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah we're trash, tho there's a growing minority that also wants to end it.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Could be wrong but I’m fairly certain it also applies to the previous century.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

In the previous century japan and germany were strong contenders. This time around it's closely contended by israel and russia as a distant third.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world -4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Wew lad this is some tankie shit. The US is fucked, but this is just a lol. The US destabilized yemen 🤣

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Exhibit A as to why the term tankie is just libs complaining about how they're also pieces of shit

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

Is that all you have, wankie?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Listen, I’m no tankie but the thought that blowing up shit in a country wouldn’t destabilize that country is pretty laughable.

Considering what American became after 9/11, you’d think you’d have learned by now?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Listen, I’m no tankie but the thought that blowing up shit in a country wouldn’t destabilize that country is pretty laughable.

And if shit is already blowing up?

What is 'destabilizing' about supporting the Northern Alliance against the Taliban, for example? Walk me through it. I'm apparently a moron.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I guess the destabilising bit there would be supporting the Taliban in the first place.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The Taliban that fought the Mujahideen we supported in the 80s? The Taliban that wasn't even formed until after US interest in Afghanistan was long-over? The Taliban that started a literal civil war against the Mujahideen? Those Taliban?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

The Taliban was a part of the Mujahideen.

The Taliban that wasn't even formed until after US interest in Afghanistan was long-over?

I know the US govt is incapable of thinking about the consequences of their actions, but you can try to do better.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, as we all know, the ongoing civil war in Afghanistan that Pakistan was deeply involved with was entirely peaceful before US intervention, Somalia and Syria (I note you use the anti-Assadist flag, lmao) likewise, we are definitely not present in Nigeria at request of the fucking Nigerian government, and our involvement post-2012 with Iraq was DEFINITELY not at request of the Iraqi government in dealing with fucking ISIS. Of course, I'm sure any number of people here would parrot critical support for ISIS under anti-imperialist grounds.

I also note that excluded is the assassination of Soleimani, presumably counted instead as an Iraqi strike since it was on Iraqi soil, even though it was an attack on a high-ranking Iranian military officer. I guess that would make Trump's warmongering too apparent.

But that might contradict the "BOTHSIDES" narrative, so we can't have any of those inconvenient facts.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Brother I like some of your posts but looking at this graph and being like “don’t give me your bOtHsIdEs, we HAD to!” is WILD.

We had to what, go in and fix all the destabilization, all the power-vacuum issues that WE caused with our meddling since WWII?

How can you look at what we have “had” to do and not think “wow, we’re the fucking bad guys”?

We are in an abusive relationship with the rest of the world. They gave us the benefit of the doubt, especially after “the Muslims” hit us that one time, but they can see our pattern for what it really is now. It’s time to come to terms with it, before we get any deeper in the shit.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social -4 points 12 hours ago

Man, I am not saying we "Had to" do any of it, as I said, whether they're justified, I would say not in most cases. We did not have to do any of it, but I also won't pretend that running sorties on fucking ISIS to defend Iraq is the same as invading Iran - or pulling a drone strike on Iraqi soil without Iraqi permission, for that matter.

My point is that these largely aren't destabilization as the title suggests, and trying to pretend that they are is disingenuous at best and, considering how heavily it ignores the actual difference with Republican administrations, intentionally misleading at worst.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if US/Western interference in the region could have caused or worsened any of these civil wars...