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«¿Cuántas naciones ha bombardeado USA desde 2001?» (Infografía: Al Jazeera)

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Brother I like some of your posts but looking at this graph and being like “don’t give me your bOtHsIdEs, we HAD to!” is WILD.

We had to what, go in and fix all the destabilization, all the power-vacuum issues that WE caused with our meddling since WWII?

How can you look at what we have “had” to do and not think “wow, we’re the fucking bad guys”?

We are in an abusive relationship with the rest of the world. They gave us the benefit of the doubt, especially after “the Muslims” hit us that one time, but they can see our pattern for what it really is now. It’s time to come to terms with it, before we get any deeper in the shit.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social -4 points 13 hours ago

Man, I am not saying we "Had to" do any of it, as I said, whether they're justified, I would say not in most cases. We did not have to do any of it, but I also won't pretend that running sorties on fucking ISIS to defend Iraq is the same as invading Iran - or pulling a drone strike on Iraqi soil without Iraqi permission, for that matter.

My point is that these largely aren't destabilization as the title suggests, and trying to pretend that they are is disingenuous at best and, considering how heavily it ignores the actual difference with Republican administrations, intentionally misleading at worst.