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A jury has found Elon Musk liable for misleading investors by deliberately driving down Twitter's stock price in the tumultuous months leading up to his 2022 acquisition of the social media company for $44 billion. But it absolved him of some fraud allegations, finding that he did not "scheme" to mislead investors.

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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

That is the price of new phone for him compared to us...

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why these courts charge a set fine for stuff like this. This is clearly an extremely unique case. The man is 20% shy of being a trillionaire.

What really needs to be done is they need to charge a percentage of his profits. Say 20 to 30%.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

… and the billionaires draft the laws.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

He'll have it back in a month...

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago

They should repossess it and place it in the hands of a responsible steward...

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't know how much he has liquid. The article says that "most" of his 814B is tied up in Tesla stock. Selling a couple of billion worth of stock isn't trivial.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's assuming they can even get him to pay it.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Ya for about 10% of that cost the lawyers will keep working hard to contest.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 43 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For the rest of us, there would be a seizure of assets and a prison term.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

God bless Willy Nelson…

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I wasn't invested in Twitter, but when I heard he was trying to get out of it I bought some stock. I knew he couldn't get out of the deal because it doesn't work like that and he's a dumb ass.

My only regret was not buying more. Thanks for the money, idiot.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Next time please also let me know I should do that

[–] rogsson@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

It should be % based of his income. Otherwise it’s not a punishment 

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

How much as he made from his Twitter deal? He made it illegally, confiscate it all.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

That’s the problem with Mr. musketeer he doesn’t actually show income. That’s why we’re always complaining about how billionaires don’t pay income tax.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

It should be the amount he made from it + a fine. It's how the middle class gets handled.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

This does not work because he will find a way to have 0 income (legally). I don't know how we can make the billionaires pay, but we should tax the assets not the incomes.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 121 points 15 hours ago (16 children)

If the punishment is a fine, it's only illegal for poor people.

The only war is class war.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 52 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter, this was just a minor cost of doing business.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

I could change the world for the better with this sum. Hell, even with the fee. Oh well, I'm sure it's best that he has that money 🙄🤮.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Best find a different ATM.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

I don't know, 0.5% isn't a bad rate...

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter...

Serious question: How?

AFAIK, Twitter wasn't terribly profitable before they sold to Musk. Then after he purchased it, the enshittification accelerated.

How on earth does this result in $400 Billions in profit?!?

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

He made $400B, not Twitter. That's almost entirely from Tesla and other ventures, not Twitter.

Last I've been able to find Twitter was valued at $33B when xAI bought it.

And that's just raw valuation which is easily manipulated, not revenue or profit, which can be easily manipulated.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's not real money, and Musk isn't the richest person in truth, not by a long shot. This is theoretical money based on overpriced companies that are propped up by what I suspect are some rather shady practices and investors using it as a casino stock.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The money doesn't have to be real for Elon to be able to use his stock as collateral for billion dollar loans. So he in fact has real money, that banks gave him, and that he will never pay back.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

While true, a recession will change things.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

It will only restrict his ability to get new loans, and make his collaterals worthless. But he probably spent most of the money they gave him, and like with twitter, he shifted the assets around in his network of companies, like a thimblerigger.

But that's kind of like saying that inflation will make the rich poor, which is also not true.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Actually worst than imaginable if you delve deep the psychology of the rich is akin to tumour development. Never forget these rich fuckheads would bet over your misery like a game.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Spoiler alert: he won’t pay or admit any wrongdoing.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

admit any wrongdoing.

So, the Trump school of leadership.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 10 hours ago

So the public paid to see another billionaire do things nobody else can do and get away with it. Nice.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 49 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So that's like me paying a $20 fine. GOOD JOB

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Except he almost certainly won't be paying anywhere near that amount, if anything.

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[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 30 points 15 hours ago

That's a fine of $2 out of a total of $800.

I'd speed past cameras if I was running late, and that was the fine.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He's made billions more after and because of it so he doesn't give a shit about a meaningless, billion dollar fine.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's an ego thing, he'll hire a bunch of really expensive lawyers and drag it out as long as he can. This is what the rich do.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

if you drag it out, a billion dollar fine becomes a million real fast

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

That's a power thing. Avoiding accountability to the rule of law.

[–] stephen@lazysoci.al 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I wish “massive white color crime” for the expediency that a “Black dude swelling a bit of weed” got.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I think he can cut you a check for that in the court room.

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