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The Transportation Death Compass (slrpnk.net)
submitted 20 hours ago by amikulo@slrpnk.net to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Flying is not low likelihood of death. Commercial passenger aviation is.

Private planes crash and kill their occupants fairly often.

Commercial flight is safe just because there are so many regulations that are (were?) strictly followed. If you really wanted to reduce auto deaths, you could absolutely regulate it down to the same risk as commercial aviation, but that would nerf the purpose of a car to the point that no one would actually use them.

Broadly speaking, the way regulations are written is according to our appetite for risk of death in that medium. Modes where you have some appearance of like cars and bikes see high acceptance of risk while modes where you are strictly "along for the ride" see low acceptance.

[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

So where do we put motorcycle riders? Is there a suicidal category on this graph?

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

no-one desires to die.

Maybe do it with "fear of dying" instead?

  • fear high, likelihood high: biking
  • fear high, likelihood low: flying
  • fear low, likelihood low: train
  • fear low, likelihood high: driving
[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 6 points 11 hours ago

no one desires to die

speak for yourself man

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Desire-to-die is potentially a reasonable way to describe 15 hours in an economy airline seat, or stuck in/as traffic.

I.e. so fed up with this that you'd rather be dead.

[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes this was the point of the meme. I feel like dying in an airplane, but it is very unlikely that anything fatal will happen. I also feel like dying while driving through suburban traffic, and there the odds are much higher something could take me out.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Fun idea, bad execution. Do it again with text that isn't for ants, axis with a single arrow, and labels on the positive side, and a legible font.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago

Hey, this guy isn't an ant! Swarm him!!

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 32 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like the axes need better labeling.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 17 hours ago

It's the dual-directions arrow

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

This is what I was going to say. Arrows typically points only right and up, so the opposite direction is negative.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Idk about the bikes, downhill mountain biking is very safe as long as you don't crash

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This one doesn't understand probability lol

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is joke, is funny.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Psst, I'm in on the joke

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

falling off a mountain is also very safe until the moment you hit some rock

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You could land on a pile of one million pillows, it's impossible to say. Not the mountain's fault if you land on rocks.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

still going to sue the mountain for negligence

[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This stemmed from me joking with a friend that it is unfortunate that flying is so safe because I always want to die when I'm on plane.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

~~Which is weirdly not reflected by your graph, which shows Flying as having a very low desire to die...~~

Misread the graph, kindly ignore me.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No their graph shows that they have a low likelihood of dying but a high desire.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Oh... You're correct. Reading comprehension is apparently not my strong suit tonight.

[–] four@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

This is a confusing graph, not just your fault

[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

The fact that this could pretty much be a pcm meme too makes it top notch!

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

GTFO with your antibike propaganda.

[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago

I love biking! Hence the low desire to die. I feel so much better all day after biking.

I am also biking in Kansas City Missouri though where drivers will directly threaten to kill me.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it's anti-bike at all. Biking is dangerous in a large number of countries but largely due to cars and inadequate infrastructure protecting bicyclists

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's simply not true in the big picture. Biking is a net benefit virtually everywhere; the risks are more than offset by the benefits to your lifespan.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

I mean I agree but you can't say riding on something like this "bike route" in Ottawa, Canada isn't a death wish

(Link)

Like, it's because of cars that its dangerous. I recognise that a lot of countries have much better infrastructure that makes it much safer but our infrastructure is shit. I say that as someone who does bike as a means of transport often