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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

watching abughazaleh misunderstand leftist theory so much that i'm capable of picking it up at my level of leftis understanding made me assume that she was a dnc plant intended to prevent us from going further left.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 12 points 17 hours ago

It's more likely the reverse: she is a climber trying to find her way up the party hierarchy, using the cynical toolkits that liberals pick up when trying to come across as left while actually holding predominately right wing liberal views. These people are a dime a dozen and most party staffers and bureaucrats and elected officials are some version of this, though many never had any need to pretend to be left.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You're going to know more than just about anybody who would run as a Democrat. If somebody knows more and is doing it anyway, the burden is on them to demonstrate that, and I would expect such a candidate to be aware of that (and they wouldnt care because there is no relevant left in the United States anyway beyond the DSA).

Anyway, if we want to do the fourth Hasan Piker struggle session thread this week, let's get into it, but he is endorsing purely as for anti-AIPAC reasons while vocally denouncing her foreign policy stances. This is perfectly on brand for someone like him on the non-aligned USian left, nobody is actually shocked by this.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You’re going to know more than just about anybody who would run as a Democrat.

that's genuinely terrifying; i'm a neophyte to understanding leftist theory.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh right yeah that's why you'll find that people on the online left get pretty agitated pretty quickly when it comes to Democrats. We know from theory and history that it is impossible to do truly revolutionary activity on our own, and we need an organized movement in order yo find any success.

Many theory nerds will point out that the most succesful revolutions that succeeded in overthrowing capitalism (the Soviet Union and China being prominent examples) were organized by a vanguard party. One may disagree or be uncomfortable with certain tactics used to get there, or with policies enacted after the revolution, but these are worth investigating and contending with because the success isn't really deniable. If everything went 100% right for us, we hope we are faced with similar decisions, and if we put in the work, we hope we will make even better decisions.

That said, people with similar values often will run for office in a futile attempt to make things better without a true revolution (rememeber, Democrats are a pro-capitalism party). Many on the online left have no patience for this engagement, because almost every instance of this happening has resulted in these politicians capitulating to the party machine around them.

In the Hasan+Kat case, he is explicitly doing "lesser evilism" to chip away at AIPAC influence, even though Kat has an even worse than expected foreign policy. Good news is that she is just 26 (couldn't say I was better at that age), bad news is that if she wins, it is less likely that she will develop on that front (but I'd be very happy to be wrong).

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 7 hours ago

It's also really, really hard to keep waiting for some Vanguard party to emerge when it hasn't happened since the last century. I can see people turning to elections to try and do something beyond the nebulous "organize" that amounts to a lot of wheel spinning.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago

treats at home@imperialism abroad curious-sickle

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Her boyfriend is Ben Collins who is the "CEO" of the Onion. Really.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

that explains why they keep showing up together in all of the gay spaces that i frequent.

every time is see them, it makes me wish i had something to say that will get all the queer liberals within the establishment to understand how full of shit they are.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

it makes me wish i had something to say

At Reddit - You could do a search for her last name and sort by comments and by top. By sub too?

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[Bluesky rant deleted. My rants about that site bore even me. I'm old and I just keep going on the same subject as if I'm talking to myself like now. This mic isn't on is it? Anyway... You know - my prostate...]

Reddit search by top

I assume you need to scroll down a dozen posts more to get anything critical and good because the top results are fanboy/fangirl stuff. She's young! She's attractive! She's Palestinian! She's... Politics is not celeb news or at least it shouldn't be. What are her fucking policies?

I might use that search later today.

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Edit

Just ~2 minutes have passed and a rare post about her snuck through. I don't want to filter out a word like "Kat". It's a post by Ben Collins.

I wrote about Kat.

https://bsky.app/profile/bencollins.bsky.social/post/3mh756e25hs2m

And it links to a his blog (or whatever the term is now) post - https://benhiiv.beehiiv.com/p/kat

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

was there supposed to be something of a indictment against here in there somewhere?

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Can we please ban Hasan Piker discourse I'm so tired of these posts

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Oh, it’s not about hasan, this is meant to shit on everyone endorsing her, including ilhan and rashida, justice for some dems.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

i havent followed this race, is she a neocon?

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

Socdem with basically neocon foreign policy. Not to make too many excuses, but this is likely due to inexperience/ignorance + Ameri-leftism than a core conviction, but if you're running for United States Congress that's a pretty damn thin excuse.

She is an anti-zionist Palestinian so AIPAC has dumped a bunch of money to stop her, though. (The practical alternative, naturally, is the AIPAC lib candidate, so pick your poison).