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[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's because nouns in Spanish carry gender! Which is crazy but it works.

"San Francisco" → Francisco is a male name.

"Santa Bárbara" → Baŕbara is a female name.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Masculine form would be santo like in Santo Domingo. San seems to be an abbreviated form of that.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

SANTO FRANCISCO, THE EVEN GAYER SAN FRANCISCO 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️❤️

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This might be the most important comment ever. I'm honored to have been here.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

San is the apocope of santo (masculine form of saint), all masculine names use the form San except those that start with the syllables to- or do-.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

See? English isn’t the only language with semi-arbitrarily pointless rules

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, "Santo" is the better example. I'm actually not sure if there's any particular distinction for why sme place names are "San" and other are "Santo", perhaps it comes from historical baggage from whichever branches of explorers / conquerers founded each town.

[–] FloMo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

To the best if my knowledge, Santo is used to clarify the difference between the title and the name.

Santo Tomás being the simplest example I can think of, as “San Tomás” can be confused as as “Santo Más”.

Everything else is pretty spot on and an excellent explanation!

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

All masculine saint names use the form San except those names that start with the syllables to- and do-.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So is there something we haven't been told about Claus / Klaus?

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My understanding is we have the Dutch to blame for that as they named him "Sante" and Spanish-speaking countries adapted the sound into "a" for whatever reason. Basically it's "whole" proper name derived from elsewhere.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's Sinterklaas and it was English-speaking Americans who changed it into Santa Claus. Probably misunderstanding the origin.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Americans also like to mispronounced things and then write down what it sounds like using words they already know.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You say that like it's unique to us. lol. That's how language works :)

He's a world-famous forklift driver.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Well, Santa Claus doesn't operate in Spain so they got confused somewhere when translating the name

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

But Santa Claus is male. Checkmate, español.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So up front, I'm not a native Spanish speaker, but I would imagine it's the male and female versions of the word saint. Which is why you get San Sebastion and Santa Maria.

[–] FloMo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Native Spanish Speaker here - In a nutshell, yeah that’s pretty much it! =)